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Extremely low verified URLs..

seoaddictseoaddict
edited March 2014 in Bugs
Hey,

Since a few weeks ago, I am getting extremely low verified links on Contextual platforms.

I'm not sure if the problem is with GSA, the bulk Outlook email supplier or what.

But I went from getting 150+ verified links, to only 30 per submission.

No PR checking, no filters. Using a massive list of PR1+ that I scraped myself.

Any idea why? This is very bad -_- ;;; Can't do much with only 30 links.

Comments

  • rogerwrogerw
    probably some of the websites are offline, some closed registration because of heavy spamming..check the url's that are not working or the log in Ser
  • seoaddictseoaddict
    Hi at first I thought the same thing but I've been using GSA for years and never seen such a dramatic drop. Could it be a particular CMS updated I.e. Drupal and the engine needs to be updated?

    I highly doubt 100+ sites close registration overnight.
  • JustinJustin
    edited March 2014
    Read the log, manually click through 10-15 of the failures, and figure out why. These targets are getting hammered more and more everyday, and thus shutting down. The number of postable contextual targets is exponentially decreasing.
  • seoaddictseoaddict
    Maybe you misread my above comment. I've been using GSA extensively for years. Spamming massive, massive amounts of links. Over the years there has NEVER been such a decrease in links.

    You expect me to believe "suddenly" one day 100+ sites close registration?

    No. Something else is wrong.. not verifying emails properly, or CMS update, or something.
  • JustinJustin
    This is why I told you to manually check. Are you incapable or clicking on the sites in the log manually, attempting to register and post manually, and THEN concluding that there is something wrong?
  • JustinJustin
    BTW, Xpress Engine did just push an update earlier this month.
  • JustinJustin
    http://www.xpressengine.com/
  • seoaddictseoaddict
    edited March 2014
    I am incapable of spending the time to manually register on sites. Yes, you are correct. Perhaps you could do it for me? Thanks
  • JustinJustin
    edited March 2014
    Sounds like you're too lazy to troubleshoot things yourself. Another reason verifieds might have started decreasing is due to recaptcha pushing new captchas out the last couple days. If you have traditionally used an OCR to solve them, they are failing a lot more because OORs haven't had time to train for them yet.
  • seoaddictseoaddict
    Mmm ok I know you think you're hot shit, but you're not. So quit acting like it. Back to the topic at hand - it's not about 'being lazy' - it's the fact that I'm not a programmer, and therefore would have a hard time troubleshooting this myself. Obviously, there is a problem. Sven is an expert and surely could verify + fix the problem in minutes, where would take me hours. So hopefully he will do so.
  • JustinJustin
    I'm not trying to be an ass or act like "hot shit". I told you how to troubleshoot this yourself and I told you a possible reason why your verifieds might have decreased. You're assuming that it's a programming problem before verifying that you can even register manually? All it takes is checking out a few different targets where you see a consistent error message in the log.
  • seoaddictseoaddict
    edited March 2014
    Common sense says it's a programming problem bub... One night links decrease by 100+, even using PR0s I get bad results. It's either GSA, or the bulk Outlook/Hotmail supplier emails not verifying properly. If you want to sit around and manually troubleshoot, be my guest. Hopefully Sven has already seen this problem and working on a solution.
  • JustinJustin
    Check out this thread and see if you are experiencing similar things:

    https://forum.gsa-online.de/discussion/9771/xpress-engine-broken
  • steelbonesteelbone Outside of Boston
    Im getting like no links right now...i usually get between 25-30k verified......set up 2 new projects....after 6 hours only 1k verified

    proxies are fine....think something is up with gsa right now...hope so anyways :)
  • seoaddictseoaddict
    edited March 2014
    I communicate with some other big players and they are experiencing the same thing. All of our verified links have dramatically dropped. Again, WAY MORE than for "close registration" to be the cause. 100+ sites aren't emailing one another telling them to shut down.

    Also, I don't even use XpressEngine anymore so that's not the same problem.
  • JustinJustin
    edited March 2014
    Who do you guys use for email providers? @seoaddict & @steelbone. I'm using Yahoo and Hotmail. Are you on the latest version of SER? How long has it been since you noticed this problem? If something is wrong and you need a temporary solution, you can revert back to the last version of SER by going into the SER folder in program files and and opening it up.
  • seoaddictseoaddict
    I just use the standard "buybulkaccount.com" , the Outlook option. I do notice that when you log into the accounts, they are "temporarily blocked", however the guy claims POP3 still works. But they have been doing this for a while and were working fine. Judging by the high amount of Submissions, low verified, it could very well be a problem with the emails. I need to test using a cPanel email to find more information.
  • steelbonesteelbone Outside of Boston
    Hey justin

    I am using yahoo and Hotmail and on the current version 8.08....ran a test on my emails and checked the blacklist as well

    I noticed it this morning....i stopped gsa and running some clean up stuff and will see if sven sees a problem

    tomorrow morning i will revert back if no change has been make

    Thanks Justin!!!

    Paul
  • JustinJustin
    I just reset my GSA CB statistics and noticed an abnormally low % of successfully solved. Probably unrelated and irrelevant. image
  • ronron SERLists.com
    I'm seeing a lot of orphans in submitted that are way more than 5 days old. The verified links are definitely way down, but I can't see a pattern at all. It almost seems across the board.
  • conley18conley18
    yep my verified links dropped aswell anyone resolved this?
  • pclwebpclweb UK
    my verifieds have dropped dramatically. not sure why :(
  • JustinJustin
    I'm wondering if whatever this fix was caused another issue.
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  • NikodimNikodim
    edited March 2014

    Yea, same boat here. Verification ratio definitely dropped. I wonder if it can be measured by taking some sample projects with different:

    * New Texts (DATs) for comments, etc instead of default ones. Maybe they sudenly became mass banned, I dunno. Yeah, I'm still using those for the time being...
    * Different proxies, this is a long shot though.
    * Bad mails. But mails are a fraction of all links, for me at least, so I doubt it will help much... http://i.gyazo.com/2f18f6a70f4f3e8fb24a60597b7409f4.png.

    *  Maybe this option became Verifieds' Bane somehow? Just guessing here.

    * I see many General Blogs unsuccessful Verifications. I guess its worth looking into those with debug panel.

    * New version fixed something with Verifications. Maybe new batches of links would perform differently, but old ones are the same for me...

    If there are any guys on version 7.60 or lower please let us know your Verification ratio. Just to know how things are there.

  • pclwebpclweb UK
    edited March 2014
    Definately problems @Sven I just submitted 300 quick links to SEREngines, DZOIC and WEB2.0 sites. In the submitted column and log it was showing successful submissions and the counter was going up. In the footer bar submissions are stuck at zero? I then stopped the project and selected verify. It proceeded according to the log to find verify emails but nothing is showing as verified. Nothing in the main verified link box. There should be links as they verified ok. Very weird.<br>
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  • goonergooner SERLists.com
    This problem is affecting everyone and really needs to be looked into asap!
    It's not emails, i can tell you that for sure. I have tested extensively with different providers.
    It's not proxies and it's not my server, again i have tested many different ones with the same result.
    It has to be a problem with SER...
  • steelbonesteelbone Outside of Boston
    anyone know if sven is aware of this?
  • JustinJustin
    Are you guys on 8.08? And are you processing from global lists? I just started 20 new projects this morning. Imported fresh scrapes to each one. Sitting on 10k verifieds right now. Version 8.08. image

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  • NikodimNikodim
    @Justin, you mean that you using only your globals for targets, no import and such?
  • JustinJustin
    edited March 2014
    No, I met that I am using freshly scraped lists. Nothing from global on the above. This is on one of my list processing servers.
  • matt200187matt200187
    Got less than half the verified today than I did yesterday... Exact same settings no changes!
  • MorphManMorphMan British Expat lost in S.E Asia
    edited March 2014
    Same problem here since I updated to 8.08, very very very low verification rate.  4 days and only 600 verified links on a project I know will easily get over 2K links in a few hours. i'm sure there is a problem with GSA with others reported the same. hopefully a fix will come soon.

  • JustinJustin
    I'll go ahead and eat my words and apologize to @seoaddict. I never have this bad of submitted to verified ratios. Indeed it appears something is wrong with the verification process. I tried troubleshooting and monitored the log but nothing notable to mention. image
  • MorphManMorphMan British Expat lost in S.E Asia

    I just found a previous version (v 7.85) on my desktop and installed that on my VPS, seems to be working fine now; verification's are how they used to be and it's going nice and fast. So I would take an educated guess that there is some sort of bug in the new version/s.

  • MorphManMorphMan British Expat lost in S.E Asia
    edited March 2014
    If anyone wants the V 7.85 just drop me a PM, not sure if posting it directly in this thread is allowed

  • FerrymanFerryman
    I'll chime in just to confirm this is happening with me as well.
  • steelbonesteelbone Outside of Boston
    now lets hope this gets fixed soon....been like this for a few days
  • Satans_ApprenticeSatans_Apprentice SERLists.com
    I am seeing the same problem even with version 8.08. My link production is way, way off. My submitted folder keeps growing, but my verified folder isn't.
  • steelbonesteelbone Outside of Boston
    edited March 2014
    Anyone heard from sven on this???
  • 0197101971
    edited March 2014
    Same issue.... for abour 2 weeks now.
  • PeterParkerPeterParker
    what if the new version is just more accurate at finding dead links :)? i hadnt wondered there was anything up since i started verifying every day a few weeks ago i found verifieds drop dramatically fast anyhow. how fast? around 60% over 3 weeks
  • ronron SERLists.com

    One of the things that makes this difficult to analyze is when you revert back to an older version, many files like engine files have already been updated on your computer.

    So let's say you run v7.50 from early February. The issue is that many files have been modified, like engine files. You can never reproduce the exact 'state' that you were in with that earlier version.

    I hope that makes sense.

  • SvenSven www.GSA-Online.de

    As you all know I am no fan of this LpM thing. I also don't like this "my verified URLs dropped". 

    What I need are sample URLs where you think SER is able to post to in old version but fails in new.

  • steelbonesteelbone Outside of Boston
    i dont have any samples at the moment....but gsa 8.08 is a shell of its former self......running a job for 12 hours and gett 1,000 verified when i usually get 20k tells me something is wrong....im not the only one seeing this...many people are.......
  • SvenSven www.GSA-Online.de
    still tells me nothing ... if you can not spot it on an URL I can not really help.
  • steelbonesteelbone Outside of Boston
    oh well...thanks anyways
  • goonergooner SERLists.com
    @sven - I think the problem is that no one has versions that are old enough. This problem goes back some weeks i believe.

    Some people only notice it now, but i am running a lot of servers so spend a lot of time staring at SER and this problem is not new for me.

    So, it's impossible to show you a URL that an old version could post to but the new version can't.
    IMHO there is something wrong with the verification process across all or most engines.
    But i'm not a coder so i don't know how to find the problem :(
  • PeterParkerPeterParker
    Shit I knew I shouldnt update as soon as the green button appears!
  • JamPackedSpamJamPackedSpam
    Same issue. Appears that there has been some bugs in the verification system since early 7.9x where it was not saving project verified targets to the global verified list and now this.
  • seoaddictseoaddict
    Sven there's not really much to spot - the submitted URLs go insanely high, but almost none verify. The older versions of GSA are working, so it's a coding problem in the new one. How else can we help ?
  • seoaddictseoaddict
    edited April 2014
    Update - 7.85 is not having any better results then the new one. Will keep testing older versions - Going back to 7.70, etc.

    Update 2 - 7.70 does not work any better.

    It must be the engine files or something else causing this problem. We've tested damn near every single version available.
  • MorphManMorphMan British Expat lost in S.E Asia
    edited April 2014
    v 7.85 is a lot better than the latest, but still not as it should be, as ron said above even when reverting back to a previous version engines files etc. have already been updated. but v 7.85 I could see an improvement from the get-go after switching back, so a slight improvement. still using v 7.85 as it's the only way I can get ANY verified links.
  • seoaddictseoaddict
    edited April 2014
    7.85 is "okay" I guess, instead of 30 links, I got 45, which is still bad. On this list I should be getting 150+, no Pr filter - HUGE list. But I'm getting max 45. -_--;;
  • MorphManMorphMan British Expat lost in S.E Asia
    well fingers crossed a fix comes along soon, pulling what hair I have left out!  ~X(
  • Satans_ApprenticeSatans_Apprentice SERLists.com
    IMHO it's in the scripting files, not the .exe. You can roll back the .exe, but you can't roll back the scripts
  • seoaddictseoaddict
    Yes it seems to most definitely be the scripting files.. engines.. or something. The EXE is pretty much operating the same regardless of the version.
  • MorphManMorphMan British Expat lost in S.E Asia
    edited April 2014
    I'm no coding techy geek, but is it not possible to totally clean and delete all previous files and then do a full fresh install of an older .exe? so all the files and I guess scripting files etc. will be new? (or old which ever way you look at it)
  • MorphManMorphMan British Expat lost in S.E Asia
    I just went back to the latest version (v 8.09) one thing i did notice is that as soon as i started GSA after the fresh install the verification's where working fine (like a burst of verification's) then it all grinds to slow halt and next to no versification's now.
  • 2Take22Take2 UK
    Just to chime in on this, I'm also seeing the same thing as the OP and everyone else in this thread.

    Lots of submissions not verifying and just sitting there doing nothing in the project/s. Seems to be happening across the board with most if not all engines, so I can't even pick up the slack with more spam.

    I'm down from 50k+ verified per day, to 5k if I'm lucky. :(
  • lisaserlisaser
    is this bug still happening :(
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