I use pure spin from KM. If I had something very special where I *needed* human-readable-spin, then I would create a very limited project and restrict it to just the engines that needed the good stuff.
If you really do some initial research, you will find that there are a lot of human readable spin deals out there. I am sure fiverr is in that bunch as well. Whatever you do on that front, you still need to weave the tokens in there, which is a pain in the butt.
Make sure you have checked the box called "Per URL". You would be better to use 'submitted per day per URL' and just adjust/control the amount submitted. It just works better.
From your experience if i chose 5 submission per day how many of that will be verified. And secondly how do you build backlinks to your manually created web 2.0 site? Do you import and verify them into a project?
This is what i do, import them into a project i created for site i want to rank and i verify them immediately but in the process of verifying them GSA SER does not verify some of them. with this am getting confused because GSA will not build links to this unverified web 2.0 which makes them worthless. Please advise
If i upload more than 1 url within url section then GSA build links to each of the url or not? Suppose i want to build links to 20 web 2.0 and i wll upload them in one shot in URL section and start the project. Does it work?
I think so but i prefer importing them as verified links by right clicking on the project >>show urls>> verified links>> right click on the verified link page and click import and verify them, then your tier 2 will build links to them
@Ron why don't you use directories in your kitchen sink links? I can create these types of links faster than any other it seems, maybe except for trackback.
Lol, I'm still bad even with good number of projects and not much strict filters. My friend who applied same strategy from reading this forum went through the roof (above 100) and I'm still there around 10 or so. I feel jealous sometimes lol. :P
I've been using this method for a few months now, and I'm starting to notice that for my T1 T2 and T3's (web 2.0, articles & social network) they aren't getting very many new links anymore.
I was told by someone that for these contextual tiers I should only have "Article" and "Article-Wiki" selected in the "Type of Backlinks to Create" section.
Could this be why I am not getting a lot of new links? Should I have more items selected in that section than just those 2?
I am interested in that too. What you will do when tier one will not have anymore targets(specialy when you select pr1+ filter)? Should I backlink to the same sites again, to get more links(delete accounts history)?
@sickaluph there simply are not enough Article types or Wikis in my opinion, to rely on them only. You would be better off ticking more options like SN, Web.20, Wiki too.
I couldn't find how you do the T1 articles. By example if you want to target "dog training" keyword, for T 1 you write 1 original article and then manually spin it and post them lets say to 20 web 2.0 like word press, tumblr etc?
If you want more article sources you need a 3rd party scraper like ScrapeBox and GScraper. Their are virtually unlimited targets for contextual links but it will require alot of time and effort to build a large HQ list. Worth it in my opinion.
Sure. Couple things that have helped me alot is creating unique footprints whether that is a text snippet, html code, or url string. Also, start looking at other languages and platforms, trends on Google, reverse engineering other sites, etc. I've been doing this for 6 months so it took quite a bit of practice. The more unique your approach you can come up with the more unique your results will be
@sweeppicker@gooner I always wanted to ask strategy about scraping with scrapers like Gscraper/Scrapebox. For example, I follow Ron's diagram for tiered link building. So would it be better to scrape 1-1 day each for contextual and junk platforms separately or import altogether (all footprints) and scrape altogether?
I currently started doing separately but my biggest problem is (I use gscraper) to avoid duplicate targets, I set to remove already used keywords in gscraper option. Now interchanging between the two, obviously I can't start with the remaining keywords as it'd lead to reset. So what's the best way to scrape for both platforms? Altogether or separately?
Cheers.
Can I jump in and ask how you search using multiple footprints? This is next on my list of things to do, but want to ask in advance. I'm going to test something with footprints and will report back here, and share, if it does work.
@sweeppicker: how do you create your own footprints? Would like to know because I saw that mentioned here quite a few times now but all I can use are the footprints that come out of the box with gsa.
Pratik I only target contextual and blogging platforms in Gscraper. U can also expand your KW list from within Gscraper and find even more targets. It's quite simple Hope that helps.
@sweeppicker Cool. I assume by expanding you meant inbuilt kw list? If so, I already know about it however don't use it as I do have other sources.
Oh and one more thing I wanted to ask, how you define contextual in SER, I mean what you guys usually check in "type of backlinks to create" for contextual links?
Oh and just for curiosity, if you scrape with Gscraper (using their proxies?) what's your average URL scraping speed?
Thanks.
I dont use the inbuilt KW list. If you go to the tab marked "expand" you can import your own Kws and expand the heck out of it. You need to use broadmatch Kws though. In GSA use the "article" and "social network" platforms.
@sweeppicker That expand option looks interesting but I'm certainly getting less hold of it. Could you mention in a bit detail as to what exactly is it intended to do? I apologize for asking questions here and there haha, pardon me if it is wasting your time.
I usually leave domain as anchor to around 60%, generic as 30% and 10% for all my main keywords that I want to rank for. But this also depends on the number of keywords you want to rank for. For example if I want to rank for 5 keywords, then the 10% would do 2% for each which is good.
Hi @Pratik, how many links would that be in total for each tier? What I'm getting at is, 2% KW density is much safer if there is only 50 links... versus 50,000 links. 2% KW density with 50k links means there are 1000 identical anchors. I don't know if that is cutting it too fine (my numbers are similar).
@spunko2010 Well, I think you would do okay but I do not work at Google haha so can't give the exact prescription. But I mean, really think it might not be a problem at all.
You know what's really cool?
If you have an EMD domain or main kw in the title of your page/homepage, then many CMS and many forums/sites converts plain links and fetches the title for that page. And Google NEEDS TO TAKE that into account so it would consider so many times before penalizing you - at least that's what my logic says. So also buying more branded domains in opposite to EMD makes sense. So in the coming months, that is what my stratergy has been and would be. For example instead of dogtraining.com, I'd go with dogtrainingguide.com and use "Dog Training Guide" as more of an anchor text so it also covers up "dog training".
Although I feel very idiot to teach a high earner like you haha - by no means I am a professional or something. Learning something new each day!
Question for anyone...? The issue that has been bouncing around in my head a bit is this. Say I am attempting to rank for 500 keywords, each tied to a URL on a large site. So I keep my Tier One percentages 60% generic, 30% domain, and 10% keyword. In my lower tiers, I may be building a link to a link such as "click here", "http://domain.com/path/path/dest.html", or "keyword". When I build that link, my options in GSA are to use the same anchor text, or all of the other usual options. To avoid leaving a massive footprint I am forced to never use the same anchor text option, other wise I will have links to links with the same weird generic anchor text (e.g. "click the up coming internet site" so I cannot easily build a theme from tier to tier using keywords. Am I missing something, or overthinking this?
What I personally will be doing and still doing is even if an EMD domain is available - I won't pick it. Because day by day, Google is cutting on EMDs and sooner or later seems to be hit in penalty - mild or strong. Instead I want to make a brand and go for branded domains which also contains my main keyword. PMD in simple words.
PMD means also Phrase Match Domain, in the past was a second and less effective option than EMD, but nowadays it's becoming more and more effective :-)
@Pratik - I normally use PMDs and they work well, but if I got the chance, I would snap up an EMD in a second. They work great, but you just have to be a bit careful how you use them.
@Pratik, as far as I can see, all that they are saying is that they are going to be looking at low quality EMDs, so if you build a decent site (which for the most part you need to anyway, in order for it to convert and to help it rank), and you don't over optimise it, then you shouldn't have anything to worry about.
What everyone, including the author of the article seems to miss, is that (provided you don't over optimise the site) you can build lots of keyword rich anchor text links to EMDs without ever risking tripping any filters (I'll let you figure out how :P )
That said, this is google that we're talking about, so who knows? lol
@donchino I agree but I did started seeing the effects. One of the niche sites that I am building currently that has no EMD or even PMD and the rankings are coming good (good content btw on site). However, some emds or pmds have tanked in last month or so.
I know these reports are not enough, but we can also not neglect that to rank, EMDs are not needed at all and you can still achieve those results building a brand.
@2take2 - You're right and it works very very well. In local business markets i always try and go for EMD's and i've never had anything but good results.
Does anyone have a specified link velocity for their kitchen sinks? Since these are the more spammy platforms, I'm just keeping any sort of velocity off and letting them hammer my T1, T2, and T3.
I start at 10X and then after about 1-2 months I raise it to 20X. I want to see terms in the top 50 before flipping it to a higher multiple as I want to take that momentum and up the stakes. Most of the time it works well.
Honestly the advice hasn't really changed. It's just a basis for setting up a solid tier structure. It separates contextuals from junk - which is maybe the most important point. I don't always do 3 tiers now, mainly to conserve resources on an already packed VPS.
Remember this isn't an SEO plan. This is just my view on how to tier. All the things that are SEO - many of which have nothing to do with all of this - well, that is a separate deal.
Is this still working in 2014? I read some changes in the PR filters during this thread. If I go with no PR filters on everything except Wiki's and Blog comments should I be fine than?
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I use pure spin from KM. If I had something very special where I *needed* human-readable-spin, then I would create a very limited project and restrict it to just the engines that needed the good stuff.
If you really do some initial research, you will find that there are a lot of human readable spin deals out there. I am sure fiverr is in that bunch as well. Whatever you do on that front, you still need to weave the tokens in there, which is a pain in the butt.
pause project after 10 verified links per day. Would this build 10 links each to all 10 first tier urls. Regards
This is what i do, import them into a project i created for site i want to rank and i verify them immediately but in the process of verifying them GSA SER does not verify some of them. with this am getting confused because GSA will not build links to this unverified web 2.0 which makes them worthless. Please advise
If i upload more than 1 url within url section then GSA build links to each of the url or not? Suppose i want to build links to 20 web 2.0 and i wll upload them in one shot in URL section and start the project. Does it work?
I can create these types of links faster than any other it seems, maybe except for trackback.
LPM is cool for churn type sites. On special sites you take a different approach, so it doesn't matter.
I was told by someone that for these contextual tiers I should only have "Article" and "Article-Wiki" selected in the "Type of Backlinks to Create" section.
Could this be why I am not getting a lot of new links? Should I have more items selected in that section than just those 2?
Maybe you meant the actual engines? On my T1 T2 T3 I am running Article, Social Network, and Web 2.0
And under "Type of Backlinks to Create" I only have "Article" and "Article-Wiki" selected.
Lol, looks like you opened a can of worms here
They work great, but you just have to be a bit careful how you use them.
What everyone, including the author of the article seems to miss, is that (provided you don't over optimise the site) you can build lots of keyword rich anchor text links to EMDs without ever risking tripping any filters (I'll let you figure out how :P )
That said, this is google that we're talking about, so who knows? lol
Is this still working in 2014?
I read some changes in the PR filters during this thread. If I go with no PR filters on everything except Wiki's and Blog comments should I be fine than?
Thanks