Hi Guru, all of my tiered campaigns are fine, but I'm seeing some dancing with a few keywords in a couple of my churn and burn ones. It's been going on for about 1 week now, as far as I can see.
theguruland
Well I think there is an update going on , and not a little one since forums all over are starting to be pupulated by posts indicating the magic sudden derank happening LOL. My websites ( lot of them ) are dropping . Still I will wait a few days to see what will happen but its definitely an update.
meph
Yes, it started 1-2 days ago. I noticed some dancing on my GSA SER campaings, some with SAPE links, some with PBN links, some sites with low anchor % some with high - i cant find any pattern.
theguruland
My websites are not part of any PBN , most of them using exclusively GSA . Different anchor % etc.. its something different and I smell its something not nice.
Thunderman
It looks like there are some changes going on, but if you look at this graph, you can see how many changes are always going on.
I don't listen to chatter on the seo forums, it's normally people running scared.
I am seeing some keywords increasing in rank and some dropping in rank daily but over a month period they always go up.
Leave it a for a few days and see what happens to your rankings.
Don't get influenced by forums!
JudderMan UK
We were overdue an update, it's been a while, usually March/April.
I haven't seen any ranking losses, though. Not yet anyway.
theguruland
There is an update , trust me . Its not about looking at forum ... but when on forums they speak about this thing happening that means it is affecting a lot of people . I run more than 2000 websites. Around 500 being affected in negative way. I speak and type this because it i happening TO ME.
meph
Do you ran GSA SER on all of them?
derdor
Most of my authority sites got a nice uptick boost.
It seems they are again targeting guest blog sites and Half PBNs
theguruland
@Meph yeah I do / did . But that doesn't mean much . SER build only links , is the way you build them that count. Anyway I gave my opinion based on a relevant number of websites I ve . But again , it has to settle down a little bit before we can judge this update
MorphMan British Expat lost in S.E Asia
I noticed something yesterday, 1 youtube video dropped off the face of the earth and not in top 500 after sitting on page 1, another site disappeared and not in top 500 after ranking for a few keywords previously
theguruland
MorphMan I just noticed drops between 20 to 200 positions
MorphMan British Expat lost in S.E Asia
My other sites are fine no drops just the above mentioned
theguruland
it depends on the niche I suppose , some of my websites are in the same niche. Anyway , I think its not settled yet. Very strange this time websites dropped for a few keywords not for the whole keywords set.
bangkoklad online
Yes a few sites got hit here too. Hope it's only temporary..
JudderMan UK
Checked Ahrefs and some sites have lost certain types of links, looks like redirects and image comments (even though I don't do image comments directly at money sites...) No ranking losses though.
Samx
I see significant improvements in a content oriented site but it has been trending that way anyway. My redirect projects are holding steady. Business as usuall here.
aquaticminerals Planet of the Apes
I think it's not so much the type of links but the devalueing of links instead that causes these drops
DonCorleone
edited May 2014
all my spammed to death youtube and bloggers have either dropped out of top 50 or jumped to the next page . Only 3-4 properties remaining in top 10 now .
But my 4 websites which are free from gsa ser links (even tiers) are untouched .
theguruland
This update is a way more targetted on websites ( any website ) that use spammy links directly to money site
Thunderman
I am building links directly to my money site from SER and I haven't seen any major drops at all.
But I do take care to use proper articles and only post to certain engines.
@thegurulandI have seen competitors rankings dropping like flies today. So you are right about something going on!
theguruland
Thunderman maybe you have 4 sites and you can rank them in that way . I do volume work . I ve to work and rank in different way Still , I ve noticed that my sites that get penalized didn't get deranked for ALL the keywords but just for some . I wish I had 4 sites only sometimes ... LOL
2Take2 UK
edited May 2014
Totally anecdotal, but after a [very] brief look at one of my churn and burn sites that's affected I can see a huge amount of links from image sharing sites have been deleted/disappeared over the last few days.
Also, the anchor text was also all within what would be considered acceptable, so probably nothing to do with that either.
Although, as already said, best to let the dust settle before making any real observations.
johnsees
@2TAke2 Do you use generic anchors for churn and burn or just the major key phrases?
adystanley
Same problem for me. Lost rankings on over 80% of my web 2.0s.
Hope this update will cancel very soon.
davbel UK
edited May 2014
No changes of note. A couple of places up and down, but pretty much within what has been happening lately.
For all there was chatter on various SEO forums last week about an update, Google (believe them or not) denied such an update took place:
I suspect that unless you are building a "brand" this sort of random ranking will happen more and more as Google re-arranges the SERPs to either suit itself or brands it has a commercial relationship with.
adystanley
It may be just a Google Refresh. And of course most of the churn and burn sites will get affected. This means it`s time to create new ones.
2Take2 UK
edited May 2014
@johnsees, I generally use anchor, domain and generic in the same ratios that I would build them to any other site. I know that some people still like to just hammer sites with the key phrases, and they probably get good results, but with decent onpage SEO I've not really found it makes much difference either way.
More important is the technique than anything else, and it's where most people get it wrong, including myself sometimes. lol
That said, it's not really what I'm focused on, and there are people here much better qualified to talk about it than me.
adystanley
i have a question guys:
in this period should i create more web 2.0s and spam them? or should i stop until this update cancel?
umerjutt00
Same thing with me guys. My web 2.0 's are nowhere to be seen.
@adystanley I think we should wait for the dust to settle down.
Comments
It seems they are again targeting guest blog sites and Half PBNs
Also, the anchor text was also all within what would be considered acceptable, so probably nothing to do with that either.
Although, as already said, best to let the dust settle before making any real observations.
For all there was chatter on various SEO forums last week about an update, Google (believe them or not) denied such an update took place:
http://www.seroundtable.com/google-denies-update-18539.html
I suspect that unless you are building a "brand" this sort of random ranking will happen more and more as Google re-arranges the SERPs to either suit itself or brands it has a commercial relationship with.
More important is the technique than anything else, and it's where most people get it wrong, including myself sometimes. lol
That said, it's not really what I'm focused on, and there are people here much better qualified to talk about it than me.