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Suggestions for Buying good dedicated Server?

edited March 2014 in Other / Off Topic
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can anyone suggest me a good and cheap dedicated server for ofcourse to run GSA SER and CB
my budget is 40-50$

Thanks :D

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  • goonergooner SERLists.com
    Wow, do you mean a VPS?
    A good dedi will cost more than that.
  • edited March 2014
    @gooner nope i mean with dedicated servers

    http://www.soyoustart.co.uk/offers.xml
    http://www.kimsufi.com/uk/
    http://volumedrive.com/vdrive/?a=dedicated

    i have found some website which is shared here and available in my budget. just want to know which one is best or any more good available.
  • what is your bottleneck right now? processing power?
  • goonergooner SERLists.com
    edited March 2014
    Volumedrive is not recommended, many people here have problems including myself.
    They claim DDOS attacks and shut your down your server.

    I don't know about the others, but over the last 5 months i've tried about 10 different companies. The one i stayed with costs $200/mo but you know what... I don't have a single problem with them, never have abuse complaints, DDOS BS, no downtime and support is available 24/7.

    Just saying, i would be careful with cheap dedi's.
  • edited March 2014
    Don't buy a cheap dedi you will only have problems.
    Volumedrive - scammer, they don't even have the hardware you are paying for and don't refund.

    Datashack - they claim DDOS atack and you won't be able to use your server.

    Like gooner says buy something more expensive or stick with a VPS.

    I'm currently paying ~150$/mo with a big host and have no problems.
  • I really have to question the logic behind using an expensive dedicated server. This is just for running SER. It's not like you are hosting a website with high volumes of traffic. I'd any day get two cheap and not that reliable dedicated servers above an overpriced one. It'd make sense to me if I also hosted my websites there, but if it's just for the purpose of running SER I don't see why it has to have perfect uptime.
  • @justin 3.4ghz currently with wdm vps, but facing lots of downtime
    @gooner thanks for the suggestion bro, will you please mention the name which one you're using now
    @cefege thanks for the clarification bro can you suggest good vps because i don't have 150$ budget now to spend on dedi
  • @fakenickahl i think it's because of lots of scraping power and posting
    better machine can increase the threads which helps a lots to target new sites and better rank
  • @jackpison I used solidseo vps before. No downtime, great support. You could check them out.
  • goonergooner SERLists.com
    Solidseovps are great, but a VPS can't compete with a top quality server. It all depends what kind of volume you are doing. I swapped 6 VPS for 3 dedicated servers. It costs me more but it runs faster. higher LPM and more verified links, no lag and saves me time. So worth the money for me.
  • @jackpison I was not talking about paying more for better hardware. For $50 you will get a server with more power than you will ever be able to use. I was talking about uptime.
  • @gooner, do you mind sharing which provider you are with? i totally agree VPS can never compete wiith dedis, my budget is around 100 bucks.

    Planning to hit more than 100 projects with that. 

    Would you mind sharing some input? :P 
  • goonergooner SERLists.com
    @peterngo91 - I use datashack. They have some nice servers within your budget.
  • @gooner thanks for your reply man, all of these dedis seems to be pretty decent, just a quick question.

    As my experience, GSA SER is more into the CPU clock speed and cache time right? But not the RAm right?
  • goonergooner SERLists.com
    @peterngo91 - No probs. Yea you're right the RAM doesn't matter, you won't use it all.
  • We will be providing dedicated servers very soon.. We just dont want to provide low quality ones which is the easiest choice thats why we are taking our time to test everything.
  • goonergooner SERLists.com
    @solidseovps - Looking forward to your dedi's, i'll try one for sure.
  • @gooner Thanks, can you advise what is the spec you are having? connection speed? Also is the price include windows license or without?
  • goonergooner SERLists.com
    @solidseovps - I like Xeon processors, 2x Xeon if possible. RAM, connection speed etc is not so important because SER can't max those out anyway - So similar spec to your VPS' is fine i think. Price including Windows is better for most people i guess.

    This is the spec i have right now:
    2 x Intel Xeon E5530, 2.4Ghz / 12 cores / 24 threads, 16GB ram, 20 TB bandwidth, 100Mbps Connection

    Something like that would be awesome, even with less RAM is still good for me. Thanks
  • @cefege thanks will try solidseovps service next month :)
    @gooner but a VPS can't compete with a top quality server, that's why i'm searching for good dedi :)
    @fakenickahl I was talking about uptime. and that's the purpose of this thread, just want to know if there is someone who can provide better quality and uptime in that price
  • edited March 2014
    @gooner i see you have some experience with datashack dedi
    just want to is it worth to try ?
    @solidseovps cant wait to try them then ;)
  • @gooner, The E5530 is a old processor, thats why we dont want to provide these type of dual or old ones, the reason they still stand in the market because they are dual processor otherwise benchmark would be Low.

    Well, all our dedicated are E3 and E5 Processor all published in late 2013 so you are getting at least 10k benchmark out of each

    The bandwidth this is the best part ;) 10Gbps are all ours will be... It just we dont have an estimate time really for them, all are under heavy tests by our administrators
  • goonergooner SERLists.com
    @jackpison - Datashack twice suspended my account because of a DDOS attack, they just denied me access to the server until i had removed whatever was causing the DDOS... Total BS, all that was running was SER. This happened to someone else on the forum as well and if you search it you will find more examples of people complaining about that.

  • goonergooner SERLists.com
    edited March 2014
    @solidseovps - Maybe it's old, but it's the best dedi i have and i've tested many. I've posted a few screenshots where i have 400 LPM and 250k verified per day... All from that server.

    I would bet money that my 2x E5530 will outperform 1x E3 or 1x E5.
    Xeon is very good for processing large amounts of data, which is exactly what SER needs.

    Anyway, when they are ready please let me know and i will rent one and test against my server.
  • edited April 2014

    bulletproofvps is the place where I am running GSA on my vps , never had any problems 

    Edit: This user was banned as he did self promotion for his VPS service. Should tell enough about that crap VPS.

  • Solid - I agree with gooner on the dual Xeon setup, he pointed me in the direction and now I have 3 of them :) (should have been an affiliate for DShack LOL). I'll be severely annoyed if I get locked out of them due to DDOS atacks but no problems yet and very happy (thanks gooner mate!)

    What I would like to see/try is a single CPU but 4+GHz - I tried to buy Volumedrive's 'fastest' but they gave me a different server. I think it was an AMD 4.4GHz jobby. As SER eats up CPU I'd like to see the difference between 1 x 4.4Ghz and 2 x 2.66Ghz. 16GB RAM is nice as it lets you use the server for other tools/uses while SER is running.
  • edited April 2014

    I am also very happy with bulletproofVPS it is a very good place for running GSA

    Edit: This user was banned as he did self promotion for his VPS service. Should tell enough about that crap VPS.

  • i used ovh and hetzner without problems .. just dont use your main ip and use proxies . for seo
  • I got this when they were running no setup promotion. To reduce the cost you can get KVM over IP and use 2008 yourself. Have used a lot of Dedi's myself didn't find anything better than this. Even cost wise this is awesome. https://contabo.com/?show=configurator&server_id=270
  • ronron SERLists.com
    ^^Nice!

    Yeah stay away from VolumeDrive. Those guys were complaining about me receiving to many datapackets, and kept shutting me down. Screw them.
  • edited April 2014

    The best for GSA for me is Bulletproofvps, I am running my Gsa there for more than 5 mnths now and no problems yet. 

    Edit: This user was banned as he did self promotion for his VPS service. Should tell enough about that crap VPS.

  • @Baldo12 and @Vineli Obviously you guys are shills for bulletproofvps...recent signup and your comments always about bulletproofvps.

    I would stay away from services that use this type of practice.
  • ronron SERLists.com
    ^^Exactly dudes, we are on to you. Retire your identities. That stuff doesn't work here. Lol.
  • Tim89Tim89 www.expressindexer.solutions
    @gooner my PC builds over 200k contextual verified links per day and that's without a server type chip, so what does that mean?
  • goonergooner SERLists.com
    @tim89 - I have no idea what you are talking about
  • Tim89Tim89 www.expressindexer.solutions
    I should have added: "While doing other things"

    You don't need a dedicated server to build lots of links, a cheap decently spec VPS will suffice...
  • goonergooner SERLists.com
    Horses for courses.
  • 2Take22Take2 UK
    edited April 2014
    @Tim89, so between your PC and Server you're up to 400k contextual links per day now then? lol

  • grax1grax1 Professional SEO, UK | White Label SEO Provider
    @Tim89 I use wizard package from solidseovps, run 36 projects, 6 go 24/7 and rest on scheduler 10 for 20 min, 400 threads, 30 priv proxies from buyproxies, CB only, 120 html timeout, using only list from serlists.com, no scraping with SER, VPS only for SER, - lags as shit, lpm is 38 right now, range from 35- to 38, and notice I use only site lists - fresh and good quality. Most projects don't have any filters at all. I think I could describe my VPS as 'cheap decently spec VPS' but again, I will probably try some dedi too
  • Tim89Tim89 www.expressindexer.solutions
    edited April 2014
    @2Take2 I build around 250k contextual verified links per day on one of my machines yes, if you want the proof, I have posted a screeny of it somewhere on this forum, go find it.

    On another install it is installed on a lower spec'd machine but none the less still produces around 50/100k contextuals depending on how many projects I'm running and on another machine I hit around 150k contextuals a day too, so cut things short, yes, I'm hitting over the 400k contextual links per day mark to answer your sarcastic question, get off your high horse matey.

    @grax1 I'm reaching lpm's of 300-500 on my machines and I too use sitelists too, how many verifieds are you creating per day? 

    what is it with this forum and e-penis's, by god, these doofuses release a sitelist selling business and think they know it all when they registered to this forum not only a year ago asking how to rank in google, I'm not going to reply to this thread after this as I not in the mood to take on 3 or 4 novices at once.
  • grax1grax1 Professional SEO, UK | White Label SEO Provider
    edited April 2014
    @Tim89 - so far 34808 for today with lpm 35-38 - I know it sucks...

    What I meant with my previous post is that you said: " You don't need a dedicated server to build lots of links, a cheap decently spec VPS will suffice... "

    and as you can see my set up isn't so bad, it's nothing big, but again, not the weakest either. And I'm not like guy with setting all projects for PR5 and above, avoid posting to subdomain sites, only .com tlds, bad words list active and wondering why I can't hit big lpm. I really have just a few filters on t1 since I don't care so much and my sites are rather quick buck projects, so for T1 I would use default bad words list, avoid posting to sites with just IP, and no .ru and .kr sites, that's all! and only contextuals. For T2 and T3 I don't use any filters at all, T2 is mostly not so spammy, but T3 are all engines expect videos and document sharing.

    As said before 36 projects running, and lpm is a fucking joke! VPS is lagging, when SER is running I can forget doing anything on VPS and if I try I just see 'not responding' and that's it. And I'm using trusted VPS provider. I already contacted them, said that I'm running too many projects, but damn, it's only 36 and 30 are even on scheduler... Tim and other guys too, what do you think ?

    So to sum up, I think saying "a cheap decently spec VPS will suffice" will lead people into thinking that they can grab VPS for 30 bucks, get 10 semi priv proxies and start blasting like a crazy with no problems.


  • Tim89Tim89 www.expressindexer.solutions
    @grax1 PM
  • goonergooner SERLists.com
    edited April 2014
    @tim89 - I don't know who joined a year ago asking how to rank on Google.
    @ron - Was on this forum from day one.
    As for me, you can see my screenshots plastered all over this forum and on our sales page (since you brought that up). If you get 200k on a VPS well done to you, because i sure as hell couldn't.
  • Tim89Tim89 www.expressindexer.solutions
    edited April 2014
    @gooner well you're a novice and you don't know how to use SER, I know of quite a few people who use VPS and build over 200k links per day, these VPS aren't even that expensive, this is my point, just because you can't achieve something, does not make it impossible and therefore you shouldnt preach rubbish.

    I did not point any fingers at anyone let alone @ron, I personally think the guy has provided a lot of free information to this forum, besides, he's not the one pushing bs around.

    //peace out noob
  • Satans_ApprenticeSatans_Apprentice SERLists.com
    edited April 2014
    @Tim89: What is your point? That you are way smarter than everyone here? Does it matter that much to you that everyone knows how smart you are? When did this turn into a contest? 
  • goonergooner SERLists.com
    @tim89 - No one said it was impossible, i said dedi is better than VPS.
    You seem to want to argue with someone so i'll leave you to it.

    I'm sure everyone has seen you spamming your indexing service across the forum and claiming @sven bumped your thread down. That speaks more about you than anything i could ever say.
  • Peace, Peace and Peace.

    That would a newbie (me) loves to say to all of big guys here.

    Please be happy everybody :)
  • goonergooner SERLists.com
    @idreesfarooq - Well said man, peace to everybody :)
  • Tim89Tim89 www.expressindexer.solutions
    edited April 2014
    I know I said I would not reply to this thread but this is too easy.

    @Satans_Apprentice this isn't a game show, there is no contest.

    When I see information being spat out that isn't true I will express my opinion hence why I did, why encourage readers to purchase or invest into something that isn't needed and more expensive? This is why I said my piece and this is why I directed my opinions to @gooner because he is the person who said it, not you, why are you even getting yourself involved?

    @gooner that was so predictable of you! To start picking at my business rather than me, considering that I, just belittled you infront of others, making you look like an utter retard, you decide to mock my service which isn't actually me... Mock it all you want.

    Obviously a dedicated machine is better than a VPS but for running SER no, it isn't.. You can purchase a beefy VPS for a fraction of the price of a dedicated machine and run SER maxing it out.

    I don't 'spam' my serivce quite the contrary, I simply give it to people that open threads that request an indexing service, dude get a grip.

    I ask anyone to check my service thread, I'm not lying, what I say has some truth, the thread doesn't update.

    I'm not attacking you personally, I'm simply disagreeing with what you're saying and you're simply retaliating like a man boy still going through puberty.
  • goonergooner SERLists.com
    Actually there is only one of us that has been throwing around insults and acting like a baby. That's clear for everyone to read.

    A good dedi outperforms a VPS, that's really basic and obvious stuff. Put the same setup on a VPS and a dedi and the dedi will perform better.

    I don't know where you get your information from. I get mine from testing SER across numerous VPS' and dedi's. If anyone has any doubts about which to get, my advice would be to test both for yourself and see which you prefer.

    Like @idreesfarooq said, peace to all :)

  • 2Take22Take2 UK
    edited April 2014
    @Tim89, Thanks for the breakdown of your daily stats, but I've got neither the inclination nor the time to trawl through the forum looking for some meaningless screen shots that could be made up of anything.

    As for the rest of your post, it doesn't really merit a response, as it was all a bit daft really.
  • Tim89Tim89 www.expressindexer.solutions
    @gooner I've only worked within the corporate field working with businesses that require OS image virtualisations for their employees, basically a hyperVM or Xen network, where users log in from their desktops and they are logged into a virtual profile, basically a V P S type system.

    These technologies that exist that virtualise RAM, HDD, GRAPHICS and CPU are so good now that hardware is something of the past, virtualisation is just as good as actual entire boxes or "Dedis", I'm not sure where you're getting your information from pal but I would not continue to chat more utter rubbish.

    I've not been very active on this forum as much as what I used to be and I have held my lip far too long reading some of your absolute BS you recommend to others, you may have some knowledge in regards to ranking a site but please, leave the things you don't have knowledge about to the people that do.

    Yes, peace and love.
  • goonergooner SERLists.com
    edited April 2014
    @tim89 - So let's get this straight, if you rent an average VPS and an average dedi - The performance will be the same, is that what you are saying?

    Really?

    OK, well i wasted a lot of money proving that is not true. Damn, i should of just asked you!

  • Tim89Tim89 www.expressindexer.solutions
    edited April 2014
    @google What I'm saying is this, and you don't seem to realise:

    If you purchase a VPS which has a decent spec for around $50/$60 a month it will be able to achieve the same as a dedicated server with the same type of hardware..

    Bearing in mind, VPS systems don't provide massive amounts of storage.. Who cares? SER doesn't need massive amounts of storage..

    If you pay $600 worth of expenses for running 3 dedicated servers per month (you did say you ditched 6 VPS for 3 Dedis didn't you?) to only run an install of SER on each server, that is a waste of a perfecty good dedicated server which is capable of possibly storing hundreds of websites.

    This is what my first comment was about.. I'm using a i7 4770k machine which is building most probably more links than you in a day and you've just blatantly said that you can not get anything else better than a dedicated server for running SER...

    Anyway, daddy has work tomorrow and I'm sure you've got some role playing world of Warcraft / league of legends to crack on with now so I'm off to bed.
  • goonergooner SERLists.com
    edited April 2014
    You could run hundreds of websites as you say, or a bunch of other tools as i do. You don't really get that option when your VPS is lagged out all the time.

    If you want to refer a VPS to me i will happily pay for it and split test it against my server and publish the results on the forum and for our subscribers.

    Send me a PM with your referral, i'm more than happy to be proved wrong. That's the reason i spend money testing.

    Finally, i'm a bit old for computer games. I'll leave that to my kids.
    But i do have the luxury of working from home, so i might stay up and give league of legends a go on your recommendation. Thanks ;)



  • ronron SERLists.com
    You guys probably don't know this, but I have 3 sisters, and I grew up in a middle of a food fight every day of my life. I would never wish 3 sisters on anyone, including my enemies.

    When my Dad was on his deathbed, he kicked my sisters out of the room because they were once again fighting - this time over whether he was getting enough care from the hospice.

    When they walked out the room, he looked at me and said that he was finally going "to get some peace and quiet". I will never forget that.

    I want some peace and quiet. LOL.
  • How important is having a bulletproof IP when it comes to higher LPMs?
  • @nipester good proxies makes a "bulletproof" server useless.
  • ronron SERLists.com
    edited April 2014

    ^^I agree. I never had a problem as the proxies cover the issue.

    But that one comment I made happened - Volume Drive said I was receiving too many data packets - what a load of crap.

    That's like kicking somebody out of an "all you can eat buffet" because you went up and got four plates of food. Stay away from those idiots!

  • steelbonesteelbone Outside of Boston
    @ron

    Four plates of food my goodness...LMAO.....puff puff pass


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