@ron@pratik@johnmiller I totally recognize when I'm at fault and definitely attacked him unfairly. It's only right to make amends
Hopefully I've learned my lesson and will be slow to judge.
I also try to remember that even though we are on a forum, people still have feelings even though we're not looking them in the eye. I wouldn't say those types of things in person, but I feel comfortable saying them online.
wow ya really great info.. learning alot bout ranking from u guys.. im a little bit of a beginner in ranking and IM, just interested what kind of return or profit do you all "rankers" see from these set-ups and linking projects?? To clarify: i see communities and forums of people discussing and researching ranking techniques and im wondering if its for monetary gain or the "google chase" or a little both??? Not asking for specific numbers just how much of a difference does being on the second page of SERPS make than being in top 5 results....
If your site is not on the first 3 positions, or 5 maximum, you get very few visits compared to the first positions. I have now a website on the #2 positions of Google for my niche, and I'm getting much more visits than when I was #9, while when I was #120 I didn't get ANY visit
He probably does mean that, but I wouldn't do that - you are adding a very heavy load to the software. Try using a spin token in that field that aims to a folder with all the keywords:
What I do is split the 100,000 keyword file into separate files of 250 each. So 4,000 files of 250 each. I use scrapebox to split the big file, and it does it with 2 clicks.
So the last name "kwspins" is the name of the folder with all my keyword files.
I moved to this method as I found SER operated much more quickly.
@ron I just setup my keywords like you suggested. I wonder how this spinfolder works? Does it spin keywords automatically after X amount of minutes or after X amount of searches or I have to setup something more in GSA option like scheduler to work properly?
And second question is do you recommend selecting these 3 options:
1 ) Collect keywords from target sites
2 ) Use collected keywords to find new target sites
3 ) Put keyword in quotes when used in search queries
No, you just stick in that macro and just make sure the folder path is correct. I'm not sure what you mean by "spin the keywords". It will access that folder and the files inside randomly to grab keywords for the search side of SER.
1) No - never - you get crappy longtails - you want highly generic 1 and 2 word search terms
2) No - never - for reason above
3) Try that one both ways - someone here may have tested it - I didn't see a difference
OK thx for the answer. Let me try to explain easier...
After I created macro spinfolder "%spinfolder-C:\Users\Administrator\Dropbox\kwspins%" with 400 files ( 1 file = 250 keywords ) will GSA change these files in GSA keyword field and scrape search engines automatically? If yes, do you maybe know how is GSA changing these files? Is it after X amount of minutes or after X amount of searches or maybe after all keywords in that particular file are scraped it grabs new one?
* "spin the keywords" = changing files with keywords (kwd1.txt, kwd2.txt, kwd3.txt,...)
Ok i think you are missing a point here, in your 250 batch of keywords those files should be in SPIN Format... what this mean? that every time ser pick a random batch of 250 keywords, it will only pick 1 single keyword from the 250 because they are on spin format...
you dont have your bacth like this: hey, hello, hi,.... you should spin that like: {hey|hello|hi}
everytime ser do a search it picks 1 new group of keywords from your macro, eg:
ser picks 1 of your 250 files, it picks 1 random keyword in your 250 kw file, then do the scrape....
in a new scrape ser picks a new random 250 kw file and picks a random keyword based on your spin macro... so every new scrape its a almost 100% random keyword.
rodol Are you 100% sure that keywords in txt files should be formatted in SPIN format? Right now my keywords in text files are placed so that each keyword is on its own line. After I press test button I got this: http://gyazo.com/33a8f2ac616908c28bd5a55edf3c14cf As you can see each test gives me new set of 250 keywords. So this isn't right?
@ronmentioned this "What I do is split the 100,000 keyword file into separate files of 250 each. So 4,000 files of 250 each. I use scrapebox to split the big file, and it does it with 2 clicks." He didn't mention anything about SPIN format. How would I SPIN format 450 files? It would take ages...
Update: I found that %spinfile% macro would do the job perfectly fine even without SPIN format (keywords must be each on new line and not comma separated) and this macro works with multiple files in folder too. So instead %spinfolder-C:\Users\Administrator\Dropbox\kwspins% I will use %spinfile-C:\Users\Administrator\Dropbox\kwspins%.
@rodol Thx man for help! Spinfile macro fixed my problem and now it puts only one random keyword and not 250 like before. Don't bother with finding that free SPIN format tool...
@europa You said you are ranking keywords 590 (exact monthly searches), Medium competition, $3.28 suggested bid. Do you find it is profitable enough?
Let me put this way. If you are on #1 for 590 keyword you would get at best 70% of that traffic. That means around 400 unique visitors/month. If you put Adsense on and get 2-3% click through rate that means you would get around 8-12 clicks. Now if you get 60% of suggested CPC that is around 2$ per click. 8-12 clicks x 2$ = 16-24$
Is it profitable for you? You spent 60$ for content so it means you would need 3 months to get your money back. Could you please elaborate and explain me how could this terms be profitable for you?
I should clarify what I said above as I misstated the tool I use (it was lack of sleep, sorry!). I don't split with Scrapebox. I use KayKay's free spin tool to split them up. And yes - those files using the macro I stated need to be in spin format. I know there was another tool I used to do that previously but forgot about that one already.
@SpecialOne - Good job bringing up the other macro. I'm not the macro king here, but you can pretty much macro out a lot of fields in the project, and basically update content, articles, descriptions, etc. all by updating folders and never opening a project. Not there yet, but I like the idea of keeping the project folders skinny. Everytime you add 100,000 keywords or whatever to a project, you are bloating the software and I'm quite sure it affects performance. So macros are good.
But you use keywords for anchor texts right? The keywords that you want your site to be ranked for?
How many do you use per campaign? Is it safe to use just 1 keyword for anchor text withe generic keywords etc as well? Or is that risky? Does it bring better results by only focusing on 1 anchor text?
No, keywords are for scraping, and anchor text is to build links.
I would have at least 5 anchors, and then have a bunch of terms for LSI, branding, generic, etc. Your question on this is better handled in an SEO forum if you need to get in those details.
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Hopefully I've learned my lesson and will be slow to judge.
I also try to remember that even though we are on a forum, people still have feelings even though we're not looking them in the eye. I wouldn't say those types of things in person, but I feel comfortable saying them online.
Take a look of these infographics...
thanks for sharing this...looks great
Hopefully it makes you some money!
If you get bored i've got a couple of hundred sites you could rank for me :P hehe
I should clarify what I said above as I misstated the tool I use (it was lack of sleep, sorry!). I don't split with Scrapebox. I use KayKay's free spin tool to split them up. And yes - those files using the macro I stated need to be in spin format. I know there was another tool I used to do that previously but forgot about that one already.
@SpecialOne - Good job bringing up the other macro. I'm not the macro king here, but you can pretty much macro out a lot of fields in the project, and basically update content, articles, descriptions, etc. all by updating folders and never opening a project. Not there yet, but I like the idea of keeping the project folders skinny. Everytime you add 100,000 keywords or whatever to a project, you are bloating the software and I'm quite sure it affects performance. So macros are good.
No, keywords are for scraping, and anchor text is to build links.
I would have at least 5 anchors, and then have a bunch of terms for LSI, branding, generic, etc. Your question on this is better handled in an SEO forum if you need to get in those details.