@backlinkaddict I do hope you're talking about the two people that were threatening each other and not everyone else, who tried to lighten the mood with a few funny gifs.
Relax, don't do it.
When you speak of list sellers bla bla bla... In my eyes, I don't personally buy them nor have I tested them, I scrape my own, however when multiple people are 'finger pointing and whining' about said lists or any issue for that matter, then there is a problem that needs to be explained or resolved...
Personally, if a list selling service is selling lists (obviously lol, they wouldn't sell hamburgers) then at least provide good platforms, some services boasts at how many servers you require or how many servers they have, to scrape these amazing lists, so why don't they scrape quality platforms.
I'm sorry but if I purchased a listed and it was filled with blog comments, trackbacks, redirects, profiles and very little contextual sources, I'd instantly request a refund.
But then again, I havent seen the quality of any list seller here, I'm just speculating.
Dispite the fact that this application only cost 89$ - I still expect to receive updates and also support.
What you believe or think is entirely up to you, no one has pantency on the truth.
Note - that there were other guys with similar issues like mine i.e the performance decrease in terms of contextual links.
And for the last time - I don't care about those lists, filled with blog comments, trackbacks, redirects etc.
In my opinion, it's a total rip-off and I'm not interested in such lists, no matter if they are free or have to be bought.
If you are satisfied with such lists - so be it, it's your choice and decision. I don't blame you and I don't care about it either. Exactly why you shouldn't care about what others are doing in terms of scraping.
To stay on topic:
This is still a support thread, with reference to the performance of GSA SER and contextual links (engines).
Unfortunately, this thread keeps being bumped with other stuff than the real context.
I begin to wonder if you will not try to sell us something, your thread have completely deviate. You have attacking type of person who would come to help you.
You surely will not receive or not much help in this way ...
I rest my case - completely impossible to reach out to 'normal guys' here with an objective and genuine request for support - bare in mind that this is a piece of software bought with a license.
Simply consider this last comment as closing this thread.
I will no longer ask for support here on this forum, obviously there seems to be to many lunatics around here.
Surely, I can afford that this software does not perform as expected - hence I don't even bother asking for a refund.
For those guys who are facing similar problems in this thread (GSA related) once again thank you for stepping up and helping in making the issue visible. Hopefully it will get resolved in time.
Know that, no one is obliged to help you. Nobody want to spend time to learn how to do good seo and give this results to anyone, this service is expensive.
I do not like to see happen a newbie in your style, you disrespect to some of us you left will be painless.
Now if you can not make money with the best tool, guy gonna sell potatoes.
Now since you did insult me - how about you go fuck yourself?
I didn't ask for your comments or sensible feelings for that matter. As a legitimate buyer of this software, I would say I'm entitled to ask for support, exactly like everyone else.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of people here who thinks they are ABOVE everyone else, like 'ELITE' and 'Special' - However in my opinion, everyone here are equal.
In terms of help...well I clearly see the 'gentleman principles' have left for good.
There is really no need to play ELITE or I-Know-Better-Than-Everyone-Else....How about playing it straight forward?
If you wanna participate and help - Great, highly appreciated.
If not - Also great, but then keep you opinions about being so-much-better-than-the-rest to yourself.
Anyhow, Yes I have seen a giant decrease in links as well. If I compare links that i built a year ago, to now basically same settings throughout. The links have dropped by 50-60% IMO engines need to be updated.
Yes it seems SER just isn't running right whether it's emails, engines, proxies or whatever it isn't running as it used to do. I'm sure in time it will be great again but right now I can see why guys are getting frustrated. But instead of arguing we must help Sven et al get to the bottom of this problem/s so guys let's please stick together and help make this software great again
There is a decrease in links because many types of sites have died and too many people expect it to gain the results of past users, when you spam a site and site owners can't combat it they simply close or forget about it, the domain expires etc.
As more people used GSA, less targets became available as they were either abandoned, hardened with anti spam features, deindexed or all 3. There was a time when simply GSA + Captcha breaker would get you 100's of thousands of links, sorry to tell you but that time is long gone, unless your targetting spam holes like comment/trackback links
Everyone whining about it won't do much good, modify the engine files yourself. Xrumer was the same, you could post to every forum with it and as each year passed by it became less effective, the smart people modified it to suit their needs and kept quiet, the others whined saying it was to expensive and expected everyone else to solve their problems.
Delve into the .ini files & footprint studio, they are easy to understand.
The developers gave you a very powerful tool, much like a sledgehammer but don't expect them to break down the wall for you.
Some top tips:
- Out of a raw scraped list of 1 million expect less than 1% success, with modifications this can be increased
- Proxies! Dedicated ones! At least 2 proxies for every thread you intend to run
- Captcha solving. Eve/Spamvilla/CaptchaTronix are great but they don't come near DBC or other manual services
- Email accounts matter, you need to host these yourself, public email providers will lock you out eventually and some sites take X days to approve your account, if your email is banned after 1 day you lose a lot of places.
- List building is a constant thing, if you buy lists consider it a starter, load up the approved links in foot print studio and start scraping your own, it will take months.years to get a good list and it's a constant battle
- Update your engine files! GSA do a good job of improving engines, but scripts based on WP/Vbulletin have hundreds if not thousands of permutations, don't think the out of the box engine files will solve them all, they need tweaking! There are some WP article plugins out there that only need a few line changes and you're done. They may not be hugely popular but that's a good thing!
- Test, test, test. To expect to buy the software and be able to get thousands or tens of thousands of good links right away even with the best hardware or huge bought lists is very naive. Like all things practice makes perfect.
Get yourself a manual captcha solver, load it up with some money and you'l get more links, all these automated ones are good but nowhere as good as manual ones, I like DeathByCaptcha or Anti-Captcha but most are good.
Use CaptchaTronix or SpamVilla first but they won't solve them all, they only solve 40-60% and it deteriorates as time goes by due to the increased difficulty for so many unsolved captchas unless you have thousands of proxies.
Ideal setup is:
CaptchaTronix/SpamVilla (0-1 retry on hard captcha)
CaptchaBreaker (send recaptcha/mollom to captcha service - 2 retries)
Fallback captcha service (anti captcha or similar - no retries)
Also you need put your successful URLS into footprint studio, add more footprints based on the results and scrape again, rinse repeat.
Also if you're new, try mastering 1 engine at a time and increasing your success ratio doing that. If you can scrape 10,000 wordpress article sites and get a 1% success, try to get it to 2%, then 3% etc, once you have gone as far as you can move into the next engine.
Yeah building the lists are the hardest part but the more successful links you have the easier it is to get footprints which makes it easier to build larger & more successful lists,
Keep going, I've been using GSA on and off for 2 years, from where they started it's a hugely powerful piece of software but as with everything it needs to be modified otherwise you're doing the same thing everyone else is.
If you want to build a starter list try scraping the generic anchor text lists along with some spammy keywords like viagra/cialis/anything gambling or loan related
For those that might have missed my last post in this thread from all other other ""Stuff"" going on in here.
I'm working with @Sven to figure out the problem with the lower link numbers. I sent him one file already to start looking in to for one part that is a big problem right now. There is still much testing and debugging to do so please hang in there as we get things all sorted out.
Many article engines have changed form names and such so this has had a huge effect on things. As we get things fixed up, I'll post some updates.
Over all, The newest version of SER is not as bad as many are making it out to be, I know I've tested an older version along with the newest versions with the same exact scrape. Things need to be updated with many engines and this will take a little time to get completed.
I have all engine priorities already set and working on it.
Im glad all the fighting is over now and we can get back to business.
Looks like everyone here is picking up tips that they can use to make their campaign better. Thats what this forum is for.
@Trevor_Bandura Thanks for looking into this problem and working with Sven to get this issue resolved. I know this is going to take some time to fix as it is not an overnight fix. Please keep us updated.
Also, just out of curiousity what were the results for: Old GSA SER VS Latestest GSA SER?
@SuperSEO Well lets just say that I found out enough information about problems that I see the need to be shown to Sven and see if we can work on fixing it. Working with Sven the way i'm going about it I think will be much better than just posting in the forum with problems.
I'm in the same boat as everyone else and want to get it all fixed.
@Trevor_Bandura - Thanks as well. I've been struggling with finding solutions myself and reading numerous threads here about contextual links. My contextual links have been nearly non-existant when running tons of decent & fresh targets with good captcha settings. Been about 4-6 weeks like this for me now.
@slimdusty72@j1387@OldFusser No problem Guys. Stuff like this happens when these sites get spammed to death, they end up changing form names etc and this ended up breaking many engines in SER. Trying our best to get things fixed as soon as we can.
I agree Sven is giving us superb support and even without a monthly fee, but i'm sure he has thought the licensing over... he still wants to sell new licenses.. but would ppl buy when they read Ser is not being updated and engines not working well anymore... No. right. so it means Sven needs to update Ser even if it's not on a monthly fee. Maybe there's even own pluses in a one time fee like people sticking to it even when no instant success.. they'd prob end their subscription and move on otherwise.
The software needs to be maintained in order to continue pushing more sales, as the software is a one time fee, the softwares selling point is its' support.
It is all well and good at allowing only 1 ser license per machine at once, which increases licenses sales but if the software is not achieving what it was then this will not encourage many more sales.
Good support = more sales and Sven has proved this with the way he has priced his software.
At the end of the day, if this software was a subscription based software, sven would need to be on the ball 24/7 with updated engines all the time constantly or people would simply cancel their subscription, how ever, as many of you might of seen already on this forum, Sven does not like to be pushed or forced, there are many threads on this forum where someone has requested something and they keep on pushing Sven but he has said 'I don't like to be pushed' which is fair enough as he does so much anyway.
A subscription based scheme would not go well if you are wanting to do things in your own time, as you have customers to answer too all the time and it would require ALOT of dev support to keep things in check.
At the end of the day, the price is fine I'm assuming the sales are fine and the support is fine.
There are plenty of fish in the sea, things come things go, it takes effort to manage software and services but they are soon forgotten if things aren't up to scratch.
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Relax, don't do it.
When you speak of list sellers bla bla bla... In my eyes, I don't personally buy them nor have I tested them, I scrape my own, however when multiple people are 'finger pointing and whining' about said lists or any issue for that matter, then there is a problem that needs to be explained or resolved...
Personally, if a list selling service is selling lists (obviously lol, they wouldn't sell hamburgers) then at least provide good platforms, some services boasts at how many servers you require or how many servers they have, to scrape these amazing lists, so why don't they scrape quality platforms.
I'm sorry but if I purchased a listed and it was filled with blog comments, trackbacks, redirects, profiles and very little contextual sources, I'd instantly request a refund.
But then again, I havent seen the quality of any list seller here, I'm just speculating.
Know that, no one is obliged to help you. Nobody want to spend time to learn how to do good seo and give this results to anyone, this service is expensive.
Anyhow, Yes I have seen a giant decrease in links as well. If I compare links that i built a year ago, to now basically same settings throughout. The links have dropped by 50-60% IMO engines need to be updated.
Looks like everyone here is picking up tips that they can use to make their campaign better. Thats what this forum is for.
@Trevor_Bandura Thanks for looking into this problem and working with Sven to get this issue resolved. I know this is going to take some time to fix as it is not an overnight fix. Please keep us updated.
Also, just out of curiousity what were the results for: Old GSA SER VS Latestest GSA SER?
Thanks for working on this with Sven to get this sorted out- glad to know it's not just me having problems with contextual links.
Good work @Trevor_Bandura I'm sure we all appreciate your time.
The software needs to be maintained in order to continue pushing more sales, as the software is a one time fee, the softwares selling point is its' support.
It is all well and good at allowing only 1 ser license per machine at once, which increases licenses sales but if the software is not achieving what it was then this will not encourage many more sales.
Good support = more sales and Sven has proved this with the way he has priced his software.
At the end of the day, if this software was a subscription based software, sven would need to be on the ball 24/7 with updated engines all the time constantly or people would simply cancel their subscription, how ever, as many of you might of seen already on this forum, Sven does not like to be pushed or forced, there are many threads on this forum where someone has requested something and they keep on pushing Sven but he has said 'I don't like to be pushed' which is fair enough as he does so much anyway.
A subscription based scheme would not go well if you are wanting to do things in your own time, as you have customers to answer too all the time and it would require ALOT of dev support to keep things in check.
At the end of the day, the price is fine I'm assuming the sales are fine and the support is fine.
There are plenty of fish in the sea, things come things go, it takes effort to manage software and services but they are soon forgotten if things aren't up to scratch.