I wanted to point out some things with RankWyz, things people should know before jumping onboard.
I posted this review a bit ago:
im starting to doubt RankWyz now actually.
seemed like a great idea.
I bought into the membership monthly and have been a member for 2-3 months now at ~$45 a month, so about $135 in. I tried to make my own accounts but I got impatient and decided to do the "Done for you" service where they create, setup, and do the content for you and do a replacement of any lost blogs within 5 days.
I paid about $180 to get 400 blogs done in 5 days TAT and they went to about 8-9 days TAT so they gave me 500 blogs instead. 2-3 days afterward, only about 160 are working or taking posts. At slightly less more then 33% working, I am a bit pissed that I am now over $300 into the system and only have 33% of my networking working that was created by the people that should know better then anyone how to do this.
I know they say they will replace them, which I havent asked for yet. However, I am at the feeling that once they replace these in the next few days, the same thing will happen and their replacements will get deleted/banned as well which will leave it past the 5 day period and with a network of only 160-ish blogs.
I did end up asking for a replacement for the almost 65% of my blogs I ordered from their Done For You service that didn't work. It took forever to actually get them after asking several times, but it did get done. However, after the replacement and after another set of 50 more blogs "done for me" for free ( from doing a survey ) I still only have about 360 working total blogs that are alive and accept posts. When you think about my original order, the number of replacements I got, plus 50 more from doing a survey, its a really low % of blogs that actually work.
Again, I had RankWyz set these up. I didn't set these up. I wanted them to set them up since I wanted someone to do it for me and assumed they would know how to best do this since they offer the service and post best use tips.
My results are the results out of the gate, not blogs that died over time from me not knowing how to post or posting too fast.. but blogs that worked/didnt work from day 1 of getting them from RankWyz.
I would expect that if your buying "done for you" from RankWyz, to only expect less then 50% of them to work. Work meaning, not just being alive, but actually accepting post even though the system says they are alive or them taking more then 1 post once the system is set up for you by RankWyz and posting over a month's time.
Replacement takes a long time, and those are only good for less then 50% working.
Also it is true that RankWyz does post to over 100+ sites, but again if you are having it "done for you" and you order say 100 "done for you blogs", you will not get 1 of each available posted site in your account ( 1 account at each domain/web 2.0 they post to ), but more like maybe 3 accounts at 33 web 2.0 accounts.
They just NOW starting giving you free blogs in your account, so this is something new and something I never had before, so this is a new feature.
Also, social bookmarking is new as well so I have no data on that yet.
Again, this was me using Done For You service from RankWyz and I still continue to use the service, but the selection of blogs you get and the replacement process needs to be refined and improved and also the number that stay alive out of the gate ( not just as status alive, but taking posts ) needs to improve too if you plan on having them "do it for you".
For what I have and for what RankWyz does, it can not be beat once it is running and going.
There are times I set up submissions and stuff does not run as expected, but Id rather have 360-ish blogs working sometimes for me, then babysitting LWB or other tools + server and proxy costs.
I think once they iron out a few bugs and release their desktop tool, things will be better.
Great. Thanks for that info. The rest, I'm sorry, but you just repeat yourself again and again. No disrespect, I know you are a very experienced tiered link builder but I have to repeat again I understand the concept behind it completely (from your earlier post in this thread, so thanks for that too.) Now please help me figure out this second generation service more.
But that solves a part of the problem, not entirely. They still have to re-post content. Some of them decide to enable/ disable image and video next week. So yeah, it still needs a lot of maintenance work. And that depends on making sure the submissions go right every time. Especially when I try to drip links slowly, like 2 per week.
I read somewhere in the forums about how unreliable RankWyz is (don't know if it's from competitor or others with their own agenda), so I'd like to hear more experience from other members before I decide to play with it. The idea of free blog networks indeed sound appealing, but many SEO just bite the bullet and move on to private network because it requires too much work to maintain. Perhaps RankWYZ solves part of this problem, but still, I'm a bit skeptical about 28% of them fail at a time.
Compare this to a set of owned WP or other well-defined blog platforms. You can almost guarantee 99% success submission rate, every time.
So how many blogs do you maintain with RankWYZ. How many of them are a few months old, etc. Are they really that reliable, etc?
And no, I wasn't referring to SENuke or Magic Submitter. More of a 1.5 generation.
"So you would have to give the GSA scripts the ability to not just generate content, insert images but also separate different link set and insert those links at random percentages as well."
--> Could we have the option to set a random percentage on eternal links? i.e. create between 0 to 4 external links?
"While on the top of links, you would need GSA to be able to cross-link the blog networks so that you could build not just 1 level tiers, but multilevel tiers and complex link wheels for larger blog network tiers."
--> is there any way we can use a macro to insert verified links from another project?
I.e. if I do a web2.0 submission, can it use a verified link from another project?
(not a parent project, but a seperate project, so we can cross link a blog network)
I've been with them for a bit less than a year and still use them and I
don't have anywhere near the success rate @godoveryou seems to be
getting.
The main issues I have with them are blogs listed as active when they're not, post numbers wildly inaccurate, difficulty in getting them indexed and again, like @eliquid my actual live rate is at best 50%.
I'm still with them and will stay with them unless their service gets worse as it gives me a bit more diversity, plus they do keep trying.
@AlexR if you specify 5 external urls...it is already randomizing between 1 and 5...not again more options here please. And no other URLs from other projects.
@audioguy - just remember that as of right now you have to 'buy the accounts' but they are pretty inexpensive.
@davbel, I recently had a few more blogs suspended so I'm closer to a 4.5% loss rate now.
@eliquid - I've never used their 'Done For You' service - so that was new information to me.
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At this point I think I've sufficiently added my 2 cents to the review so I won't keep beating the drum at this point, unless there was a grossly incorrect and outlandish statement made that I felt really compelled to correct.
I do think it's an excellent service and didn't want to see it get totally trashed without at least explaining what it was really about to anyone that didn't understand how or why you would use it.
Of course, if anyone has questions about my experience with RankWYZ, just shoot me a holler and I'll be glad to tell you what I think.
@sven - surely if you set it to 5 external URL's it will always use exactly 5 external URL's or does it mean use a random number up to 5 urls? I thought it was a fixed amount.
So to be clear Rankwyz does not create new web 2.0 blogs? You have to buy them for a 30cent fee? Or import your own. So its really a blog management system not a creation system? Am I correct?
davbel Why do you think your blogs are getting hit? is it the quality of the content? or what do you think
LOL @audioguy - I don't think there's any big secret to what I'm doing. I just don't post like my life depends on it. 2-4 posts per blog a week at most, and then I don't slam them with links. I use a second tier and hit those with links - and that's where most of my lost blogs are from.
Mind you, as my network ages I'm going to lose more blogs, but that's just natural and not a big deal. I just add some more and move on. I consider it to be in the same category as captcha costs.
Of course Pavel has said that he will release a desktop account creator so you don't have to pay for accounts, but they are so cheap anyways that I probably won't waste time with it.
@ranknow - the prices are .08c to .20c per account so I'm not sure where you are getting the 30 cents at. Maybe old information?
Either way, 8 cents an account is nothing - you just have to buy a ton of them. Here's the current price break down from inside the user panel:
@GODOVERYOU You mean, those sites do disable blog accounts based on the fact you build links to their properties? Or do you use some of those sites as second tier and links to the other accounts?
Do you track which link you put on which account so you can replace them quickly if they're deleted?
@ranknow - those are new accounts. Typically when I buy them they were just set up a day or two before I bought them.
I could create my own with Zenno, or use other programs to create them - but it seems like it would be more work than it's worth when you can get them for 5 for $1 at most, and as low as $.08 if you got 5k+
When I build links, I don't go gentle. With multiple Xrumer licenses, I send just A LOT of forum post spam, very quickly. That's probably not going to be the case for most GSA users.
I don't really care about what links go where because like GSA/Xrumer spam, this is a numbers game.
Just like I don't worry about how many WIKI's get taken down that GSA posts, I don't worry about how many WEB 2.0's get taken down that RankWYZ posts to. I also don't worry how many forum posts are moderated that Xrumer creates... It's just a waste of time to get that anal about link building.
Whenever I feel like it (once a week or so) I'll go in and remove dead blogs and then move blogs into that project to replace the dead ones. The posting automatically picks up just like it would for any of the older blogs in the group and life goes on.
If a few of the links end up pointing to dead properties and create broken links, oh well.
The short answer is that I don't worry 30 blogs if I'm running a network of 600 blogs. It's just too much time wasted to be that detail oriented.
It's a much better investment of time to bang your wife, or hang out with friends then anally pick through a dozen dead links Just my point of view.
@audioguy I've tried to index some of them with SER & SEI campaigns, but I
think some of the platforms are just pap and Google isn't interested /
thinks they are spam.
@ranknow there's no real pattern to see. other than manually created beats auto created i.e. blogs I've set up manually always do better than Rankwyz created ones, but as @godoveryou says, who has the time to do that
But forgetting about manual vs auto, there doesn't seem to be an identifiable pattern - Within the same blog platforms, some blogs are banned in one campaign but still working in another. Some are banned with really high quality human spun content where as others with trashy spun content are still posting.
Some blogs have no links, but have been banned where as others with multiple links on every page are still live.
I'm careful with how I run them, usually letting them run for a few months, posting 2-3 times a week to each blog with only the odd link to an authourity site. It's only after that that I start including links to my sites, so it's not as if I'm doing anything that might alert the blog sites.
@davbel Right, picowiki only has 364 pages indexed by Google and the first page displays a bunch of viagra and cialis spam. Very likely marked as bad neighbors. Not good.
Just a note about one of the web 2.0's - blog.com is banning blogs quickly now, so if and when you buy accounts, try to avoid blog.com
@seogrimm - I also have a FCS Networker lifetime license. It doesn't have some of the features of RankWYZ, but they are quickly working bugs out of the system and it has also been good so far.
@Godoveryou - Thanks a million for all the time and knowledge you so freely give. Being following your theory of tiered linking for a little while..but never heard of tiered content..Thank you for that!
Never heard of level 1 poster versus Network poster..
Been using Rankwyz with success, but did notice that quite a few blogs would be dead..or would be inconsistent with posts and stuff..Your posts gave me new ideas on how to go about it.
@GODOVERYOU Since you're new to FCS, please share with us what you think about it after running it for some time. I'm willing to invest in second generation Web.2.0 management service. Perhaps start with FCS if it still gets the job done, despite a few missing features.
FCS works pretty well overall. As far as web 2.0 account creation goes, I manage to get around 30 accounts per row and the submission works very nice (altough, as a Ubot software, it is really slow), similar to RankWyz. They are working on a web-based account creation software which sounds great. If you compare RW and FCS, there is only two (only two, but really important) downsides for FCS:
a) It does not support as much web 2.0 platforms as RW does b) Its content management is by far worst as it does not support as many sources or even some helpful services as an integrated translator
Anyway, they are working really hard and it seems it is going to be a rude battle between each other.
@audioguy Yes. I bought my lifetime license about two months ago and, since then, they have added around 5 more platforms for account creations and around 7 or 8 for submissions. Anyway, I think that, by the moment, their main focus is on its new account creation software.
Hey guys is FCS Network a software you install on your local machine or is it a web based application you use on their servers? I got of BHW and they are saying its all Ubot based. On their website is says it is both web based and software.
So Peisithanatos you are running this on your computer or VPS and have to be concerned about captcha as well as IP's?
@ranknow davbel is right. They are currently working on a web based application to create the accounts.
Also, now RW also has an account creator software (desktop based) for their users (both for web 2.0 and social bookmarking sites). I have not tested it yet but it looks promising. It supports currently 51 web 2.0 and 28 social sites; not bad.
@ranknow FCS Networker has two parts: Account creator and Submitter. The account creator is a desktop software (as @Peisithanatos said they are working on a web based app).
I'm not continously creating accounts so I use the software on my local PC (I let VPS to GSA ). As you said, you need a captcha solver service and proxies.
@awint it is a Web 2.0 network manager like FCS and RW? I would like to test it! >-
@awint you speak too much about your great, wonderfull, incredible tool, be humble and let the user decide, how great your tool is. And when you present your tool we will see what the best one is.
Right. Speaking positively about yourself and negatively about others doesn't make you and your tool any better. The fact that your tool is desktop-based vs others who are server-based already give you the wrong start. Show me how you can manage 10,000s of accounts with desktop-based tool, then we'll talk.
Chances are you have your own niche and theirs too. You're not even direct competitors, so why speak down on others?
And oh, add to that the fact that you rarely reply to forum posts or email. Hopefully that's because you're busy developing software, not how your treat prospective buyers and customers later after they buy.
complicated question.... every niche and keyword are different.... start looking at your link velocity and indexing rate... are your backlinks getting indexed? how many links are you building per day?
Hi, everybody. Sorry, I have not login here for month maybe.
audioguy you make sense, i should only said feature my tool have, let you decide. thanks. any detail i not reply the post or email? yes, I focus on development.
my coders have no ROI in mind they just try to make a perfect tool so it delay beyond my expect.
I think I already prove my team somehow, we make gsa engine very soon. but my tool are really complex. my tool can be beta test in this week hopefully. I do not know if I should post here my tool, it have compete with gsa somehow.
Are you guys really using rankwyz ? It seems like compared to Sven their support is like no support at all ... kinda really sucks. Got some issues with catchall in account creator and I am still confused on some systemwide options settings because they have no help section at all. If there is someone here who uses their service for some time and is really familiar with it, please PM me
I use Rankwyz account creator, works ok. And I use Rankwyz for all of my Web 2.0s, it seems more controllable than SER Engines which wasn't brilliant in the early days. Then export the web 2.0s into SER and do all linking to them in that.
Here's an honest review from a user of Rankwyz. I've loved the features they have. It would have been great if Rankwyz resolve their bugs. Their problem is getting some of the important features like scheduling and tracking to work properly.
I used it to schedule articles to our private blog network. Things were working well in the first few months. Lately, they started upgrading their interface and features, and broke some of the old features. Articles don't get posted as planned and/or post multiple times of the same article on a website. My contractor in India have to help me manually clean it up.
I reported these issues but none had been resolved. It's horrific when I found all my articles scheduled for the next 2-3 months deleted from their server, when they upgraded the interface recently. Their customer service just told me to "Sorry. Please upload again".
Sorry for the rant here....I wished I could share this in a more positive light but I though someone here could be saved from the frustration and trouble I have gone through by sharing this. I am planning to shut down my account with Rankwyz.
After what happened to me recently with Rankwyz I must say that these guys don't know shit about about how to manage a honest business !! They had a bug preventing me from posting anything and I reported it and this guy Pavel ( the owner..pk69 here ) was careless enough to leave me without a fix for 22 days !!!!! until my subscription was expired and he didn't even accept to give me an amendment for the money and time I lost!.
I paid $200 worth accounts and $60 ( and $225 last month) for submission credits and I lost all this because of this guy Pavel
Also I discovered that I had 40 k posts with the wrong Anchor text because the anchors bound to urls feature is bugged..so I got mixed urls with the wrong anchors!!!! I used the correct format http://www.example.com/post1|{anchor1|anchor2} http://www.example.com/post2|{anchor3|anchor4} but the damn rankwyz system tied post1 with anchor 3 & 4 or post2 with anchor 1 or 2 sometimes for an odd reason!!! What a mess! I lost most of my clients because of this!!
I filed a dispute on paypal but unfortunately they didn't get me my money back because the item is ineligible for PayPal Buyer Protection because it is intangible ( digital goods or digital services ) but the good news for guys having the same problem with the damn rankwyz fraud (and i'm sure there are lots of them out there!) they can file a dispute on paypal and claim their money back because PayPal Purchase Protection is now being extended to intangible or virtual items and services only for transaction made on July 01, 2015 onwards. From now on, payments for intangible items, services, licenses, or other digital content are eligible for dispute resolution.
So if you read this and you suffered from Rankwyz bugs and lost your money like me! and your transaction was made on July 01. 2015 onwards go file a dispute and get your money back!.
This is my honest review and I'm not a new member here in this forums ( go check out my old posts )
RANKWYZ IS BUGGED AS HELL AND PAVEL THE OWNER DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM TO LEAVE HIS CUSTOMERS WITHOUT A WORKING SYSTEM AND THEN RUN AWAY WITH THEIR MONEY!!!
STAY AWAY ...YOU'VE BEEN WARNED!!
This is a picture of the full ticket conversation between me and rankwyz support http://imgur.com/nSzJrMd they left the ticket opened for 22 days before they fix the system to make it actually POST anything!!
Sorry Sven for the repeated post but I found this page ranked on Google for "Rankwyz Review" and I want them to find the truth!
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I've been with them for a bit less than a year and still use them and I don't have anywhere near the success rate @godoveryou seems to be getting.
The main issues I have with them are blogs listed as active when they're not, post numbers wildly inaccurate, difficulty in getting them indexed and again, like @eliquid my actual live rate is at best 50%.
I'm still with them and will stay with them unless their service gets worse as it gives me a bit more diversity, plus they do keep trying.
@AlexR if you specify 5 external urls...it is already randomizing between 1 and 5...not again more options here please. And no other URLs from other projects.
@davbel, I recently had a few more blogs suspended so I'm closer to a 4.5% loss rate now.
@eliquid - I've never used their 'Done For You' service - so that was new information to me.
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At this point I think I've sufficiently added my 2 cents to the review so I won't keep beating the drum at this point, unless there was a grossly incorrect and outlandish statement made that I felt really compelled to correct.
I do think it's an excellent service and didn't want to see it get totally trashed without at least explaining what it was really about to anyone that didn't understand how or why you would use it.
Of course, if anyone has questions about my experience with RankWYZ, just shoot me a holler and I'll be glad to tell you what I think.
Take care guys,
GOY
davbel Why do you think your blogs are getting hit? is it the quality of the content? or what do you think
Mind you, as my network ages I'm going to lose more blogs, but that's just natural and not a big deal. I just add some more and move on. I consider it to be in the same category as captcha costs.
Of course Pavel has said that he will release a desktop account creator so you don't have to pay for accounts, but they are so cheap anyways that I probably won't waste time with it.
@ranknow - the prices are .08c to .20c per account so I'm not sure where you are getting the 30 cents at. Maybe old information?
Either way, 8 cents an account is nothing - you just have to buy a ton of them. Here's the current price break down from inside the user panel:
Are these aged accounts or new?
I take it then you do not create your own... correct.
@ranknow there's no real pattern to see. other than manually created beats auto created i.e. blogs I've set up manually always do better than Rankwyz created ones, but as @godoveryou says, who has the time to do that
But forgetting about manual vs auto, there doesn't seem to be an identifiable pattern - Within the same blog platforms, some blogs are banned in one campaign but still working in another. Some are banned with really high quality human spun content where as others with trashy spun content are still posting.
Some blogs have no links, but have been banned where as others with multiple links on every page are still live.
I'm careful with how I run them, usually letting them run for a few months, posting 2-3 times a week to each blog with only the odd link to an authourity site. It's only after that that I start including links to my sites, so it's not as if I'm doing anything that might alert the blog sites.
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picowiki.com
I'll have to look later for more as their servers are down with a 503 right now...
Never heard of level 1 poster versus Network poster..
Been using Rankwyz with success, but did notice that quite a few blogs would be dead..or would be inconsistent with posts and stuff..Your posts gave me new ideas on how to go about it.
a) It does not support as much web 2.0 platforms as RW does
b) Its content management is by far worst as it does not support as many sources or even some helpful services as an integrated translator
Anyway, they are working really hard and it seems it is going to be a rude battle between each other.
So Peisithanatos you are running this on your computer or VPS and have to be concerned about captcha as well as IP's?
You then u/l your created accounts into a web based back office which allows you to group your sites and then post to them
Also, now RW also has an account creator software (desktop based) for their users (both for web 2.0 and social bookmarking sites). I have not tested it yet but it looks promising. It supports currently 51 web 2.0 and 28 social sites; not bad.
And when you present your tool we will see what the best one is.
Hi guys! i dont know why i dont get resutls with blogs.
i have over 6k blogs, posts from blogs gets t2 and t3 links, but i dont have serp movements.
t2 and t3 slowly but massively build.
Cant understand why i dont have serp movements. Can somebody share experience?
indexing is 100%
links to this blog posts? i builded 60k t2 60k kitchen sink and 60k t3 to this blogs
If there is someone here who uses their service for some time and is really familiar with it, please PM me
I used it to schedule articles to our private blog network. Things were working well in the first few months. Lately, they started upgrading their interface and features, and broke some of the old features. Articles don't get posted as planned and/or post multiple times of the same article on a website. My contractor in India have to help me manually clean it up.
I reported these issues but none had been resolved. It's horrific when I found all my articles scheduled for the next 2-3 months deleted from their server, when they upgraded the interface recently. Their customer service just told me to "Sorry. Please upload again".
Sorry for the rant here....I wished I could share this in a more positive light but I though someone here could be saved from the frustration and trouble I have gone through by sharing this. I am planning to shut down my account with Rankwyz.
They had a bug preventing me from posting anything and I reported it
and this guy Pavel ( the owner..pk69 here ) was careless enough to leave
me without a fix for 22 days !!!!! until my subscription was expired
and he didn't even accept to give me an amendment for the money and time
I lost!.
I paid $200 worth accounts and $60 ( and $225 last month) for submission credits and I lost all this because of this guy Pavel
Also I discovered that I had 40 k posts with the wrong Anchor text because the anchors bound to urls feature is bugged..so I got mixed urls with the wrong anchors!!!! I used the correct format http://www.example.com/post1|{anchor1|anchor2}
http://www.example.com/post2|{anchor3|anchor4}
but
the damn rankwyz system tied post1 with anchor 3 & 4 or post2 with
anchor 1 or 2 sometimes for an odd reason!!! What a mess! I lost most of my clients because of this!!
I filed a dispute on paypal but unfortunately they didn't get me my money back because the
item is ineligible for PayPal Buyer Protection because it is intangible
( digital goods or digital services ) but the good news for guys having
the same problem with the damn rankwyz fraud (and i'm sure there are
lots of them out there!) they can file a dispute on paypal and claim
their money back because PayPal Purchase Protection is now being extended to intangible or virtual items
and services only for transaction made on July 01, 2015 onwards. From now on,
payments for intangible items, services, licenses, or other digital content are
eligible for dispute resolution.
So if you read this and
you suffered from Rankwyz bugs and lost your money like me! and your
transaction was made on July 01. 2015 onwards go file a dispute and get your money back!.
This is my honest review and I'm not a new member here in this forums ( go check out my old posts )
RANKWYZ IS BUGGED AS HELL AND
PAVEL THE OWNER DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM TO LEAVE HIS CUSTOMERS WITHOUT A
WORKING SYSTEM AND THEN RUN AWAY WITH THEIR MONEY!!!
STAY AWAY ...YOU'VE BEEN WARNED!!
This
is a picture of the full ticket conversation between me and rankwyz
support http://imgur.com/nSzJrMd they left the ticket opened for 22
days before they fix the system to make it actually POST anything!!
Sorry Sven for the repeated post but I found this page ranked on Google for "Rankwyz Review" and I want them to find the truth!