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  • Btw, I always nofollow external links, that's something I've learned over the years.
  • goonergooner SERLists.com
    @pratik - Is it a wordpress site? If so, just use pretty link plugin or similar for affiliate links.
  • @gooner No it's a squeeze page unfortunately.
  • goonergooner SERLists.com
    @pratik - ah ok.

    This doesn't help with current site, but for future sites you might consider building squeeze pages with Wordpress also. Then you get to use such plugins and have all the added SEO benefits too.

    Wordpress always outranks html in every test i have every performed.
  • @gooner But my competition level doesn't need WP site. Moreover I don't have any other content for such sites to put to, so a static does a job well. I'm not fan of much database related work unless I really have to do it lol. :P
  • goonergooner SERLists.com
    @pratik - Your choice of course, split test a wordpress squeeze page against a html and i think you might change your opinion :P hehe
  • spunko2010spunko2010 Isle of Man
    edited October 2013
    @Pratik .. I don't understand your last post. If your competition are not using WP then you will do well to use it, it gives a big boost above non-WP sites. For example, I have just entered a new niche where the number 1 website for loads of keywords is a single page .info domain... that looks like it was built in Frontpage in 2005... It is really bad. I have done no SEO work for my new Wordpress site and it's already ranking very well. WIth some SEO work I expect to beat it easily in 1-4 weeks.

    You can have a single page Wordpress site. You can use automated installer on most hosts. You click a button and login. No DB work, if it's a one page site it will never crash! You get major boost from using it, I suggest trying it, will only take 1-2 hours at most to change I would think?

    You can then use loads of plugins which will boost a 1-page site, or a 1000-page site.  EG W3 Total Cache, WP SEO, etc.
  • @spunko2010 You're right but for me, I can make my squeeze pages look good, do as I want. I believe I cannot get that flexibility with Wordpress.My squeeze pages are that good that it gives a click on download button (CPA) a conversion rate of easily 65-70% and above! Now how good it can get? I cannot get that with a plain boring WP site with no related theme or such. I have no time usually all day to do theming and all. So I've a nice base layout of a niche site ready to be used on all projects which I can easily push out with little to medium work rather than going on WP. But yes, the sites which I plan to have many articles, like a health niche site for example, I'd have a WordPress blog there and it is nice indeed for that purpose.
  • I'm coming to learn about Google's new update rollout called "Hummingbird" about which they announced on 26th September. They claimed it was running through/since past 30 days from that date. Could it also explain somehow linking to penalty? However, I now realize anchor text slap might have played a major role.
  • spunko2010spunko2010 Isle of Man
    edited October 2013
    You wot m8. Haven't heard of this hummingbird before :o Just googled it, it's already implemented apparently?

    "For example Hummingbird will more greatly consider question words like “how” “why”, “where” and “when” in search phrases, in addition to content keywords. Hence Hummingbird moves the emphasis of search from “results” to “answers”."

    This sounds like it's more of an internal analysis of what people click on via Google, on different devices, i.e. they may shake up results for differente platforms. Doesn't sound like a new fandangled blackhat filter or anything, thankfully.

    Just to add, i HATE the way Google still ignores lots of search terms, it's infuriating having to use exact match all the term. Case in point search for "Land for sale" it comes up with the same results as if you search for property for sale, houses for sale, etc. Stupid.  So we can assume it's a load of b*llocks like everything else they say.
  • @spunko2010 Sounds cool. But I've seen some people comment on it. Could be penguin 2.1 too but considering it was just announced recently, I don't seem to see that possibility. But my another niche site which I mentioned definitely got hit by Penguin 2.1. It was an abandoned project and wasn't making me anything, anyway.
  • spunko2010spunko2010 Isle of Man
    edited October 2013
    @Pratik but Google have confirmed it's already rolled out. And we can safely assume there would be 10-20 threads on here or other SEO forums like WF, BHW about a total collapse in ranks like there was with previous Penguins. This one hasn't measured on the radar , at least I never even heard of it til now? Not that that is a barometer of anything :D

    I am hoping the next Penguin-style update is after Christmas, that's all :D
  • @spunko2010 Haha I get your point about Christmas, you don't want something ruin that!

    Guess we need to pierce in even more to see where we lacked. Have any of your sites hit penalty zone?
  • spunko2010spunko2010 Isle of Man
    edited October 2013
    @Pratik. I started with 1 site and it got slapped hard by Penguin 2.0, I think I was one of the worst hit. So I spawned 5 more, so far 4 of them are ranking well. I gave up on 1, it never ranked/got crawled properly and I think as @ron said in another thread it was due to previous black marks on its history. Or just bad SEO on my part, no idea. The original slapped site is still doing OK but cannot be ranked on specific keywords at all now. Google must retain a LOT of data ;)

    Since Penguin 2.0 nothing has been hit. By the time Penguin 3.0 appears I'm hoping to have sufficiently spread the risk enough by having 10+ websites. So in short, no.

    Also, I have not been actrive in SEO that long but I'm sure I read Google rolled out one of their major updates about 5 days before CHristmas once. Arseholes ;)
  • @spunko2010 Agree with it haha!

    I'm also thinking to create at least 5 more niche sites by end of this year to establish a sufficient income. My 2 niche sites going down on September 11 snatched the nice earnings I just started to earn back then. Sucks.
  • spunko2010spunko2010 Isle of Man
    edited October 2013
    @Pratik Whenever I feel demotivated (like I did in June when Penguin 2.0 halved my earnings overnight or when Google didnt rank my other site) I go on ahrefs.com and do some analysis on specific niches and laugh to myself how pathetic Cutts/Google et al are at stopping blackhat spam, and how easy it is to rank in a lot of cases. I suggest you try it :)  It's not cheap but a great tool. And just rmemeber if/when you are caught don't take it personally and just rinse and repeat.
  • spunko2010spunko2010 Isle of Man
    Also this thread has really good advice and you can see the results still in Google (need to login):

    http://www.wickedfire.com/education-center/175669-blue-hat-seo-contest-recap-what-i-did-where-got-me.html
  • edited October 2013
    @spunko2010 what backlinks strat are you using on your sites ranking well
  • spunko2010spunko2010 Isle of Man
    @rodol just using the same that @ron and others have said, with SERengines + a few indexification services to get the backlinks indexed. Nothing special.
  • @spunko2010, care to share how do you use SEREngines? Do you use it just to build tier 1 or use it like the multiple tiers for each backlink?
  • spunko2010spunko2010 Isle of Man
    @Pratik I will post in the other thread for Penguin 2.1 shortly.
  • @spunko2010 Alright, thanks. Will be looking forward to seeing to it.
  • spunko2010spunko2010 Isle of Man
    edited October 2013
    OK I will post here since it migth not be relevant there.

    I just setup new project and use SEREngines only, select all options, and send between 15 and 25 verifieds to it. Once it's finished I wait 1-2 days then build normal T2 and T3 links using normal SER settings.

    Then in about 3 weeks I check (have a calendar of dates to not forget) to see where it is in the SERPS. Normally it's within first page for medium-competition by this point, or at least top 20 spots.

    If it's in top 7 I do nothing, just wait.

    If it's outside of top 7 I spam it with nearly all options ticked, up to 100  (-/+30) a day. I keep checking it to monitor movement every day.

    Sometimes I write the T1 stuff manually but most times its spun. One thing I don't do is point loads of links to a good M$ straight away, it does work short-term but not sure about long term.
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