Finally all set up again I think? (I have a couple of questions)
Hello,
It's been a long time since I last used anything to do with seo. I first bought GSA tools in 2013 and had massive success with it. Since I stopped around 2017 (I think) I have ran all kinds of PPC and still do.
Anyway, I finally stopped procrastinating and got everything I need (I think) so far to get the ball rolling. What I have bought/setup so far:
I made a random blog, just to test and play around with until I figure out what I want to focus on ranking.
I think I've covered everything above so far what I've done. Thanks to @backlinkaddict & @organiccastle
for replying to my thread when I came back, it seemed like information overload but now everything is launched/setup it's not so bad afterall!
Anyway, everything is running and Xevil keeps throwing these errors and has quite a lot of fails:
And then here's the success rates so far:
I followed the guide in GSASERlists on how to setup Xevil.
Questions:
Why is Xevil throwing those errors?
What's the best way to track serps these days? I forgot the tool I used to use that had green arrows/red arrows etc when moving up or down - stupid I know but I really liked that for tracking serps.
How can I increase LPM? I use verified lists auto-syncing from dropbox, SER doesn't scrape or look for targets.
I'm currently getting 6LPM with 1 project.
Well, I'm glad to be back!
Happy to see it's quite active and still lots of valuable info here. Also happy to see @Sven constantly supportive too after all this time! Awesome stuff you do here, it's greatly appreciated.
It's been a long time since I last used anything to do with seo. I first bought GSA tools in 2013 and had massive success with it. Since I stopped around 2017 (I think) I have ran all kinds of PPC and still do.
Anyway, I finally stopped procrastinating and got everything I need (I think) so far to get the ball rolling. What I have bought/setup so far:
- I've started paying for GSASERlists
- I've started paying for catchall emails
- I use Solidseo VPS
- I paid for Xevil
- I added some money to OpenAI and get articles from there into SER
- I just paid for Spinrewriter and I'm now using their API to spin the AI articles.
- I've bought 30 proxies from buyproxies (20 for SER, 10 for Xevil) good idea or not?
- I got the MOZ chrome extension for PA/DA.
I made a random blog, just to test and play around with until I figure out what I want to focus on ranking.
I think I've covered everything above so far what I've done. Thanks to @backlinkaddict & @organiccastle
for replying to my thread when I came back, it seemed like information overload but now everything is launched/setup it's not so bad afterall!
Anyway, everything is running and Xevil keeps throwing these errors and has quite a lot of fails:
And then here's the success rates so far:
I followed the guide in GSASERlists on how to setup Xevil.
Questions:
Why is Xevil throwing those errors?
What's the best way to track serps these days? I forgot the tool I used to use that had green arrows/red arrows etc when moving up or down - stupid I know but I really liked that for tracking serps.
How can I increase LPM? I use verified lists auto-syncing from dropbox, SER doesn't scrape or look for targets.
I'm currently getting 6LPM with 1 project.
Well, I'm glad to be back!
Happy to see it's quite active and still lots of valuable info here. Also happy to see @Sven constantly supportive too after all this time! Awesome stuff you do here, it's greatly appreciated.
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You can find link in advanced -> api section I believe. Still 30 day free trial I think too.
Im also the same way, I thought that feature was very awesome!
Always need to have some "clues" to make informed decisions. Even if its not exact science, other wise your basically just guessing and when you do have a win Im not sure how you'd duplicate the results that way.
You can add 10 free proxies to your list from webshare.io
As for Xevil, I would open up nueral networks and add solvemedia and a few others and reboot. It should cruise through those solvemedia and squiggly numbers with superior sucess rate!
With the Recaptcha and smaller amount of proxies I always had set only 10-20 threads in a rotating http:// list and it was working just fine. Trying to crank it up I saw lower sucesss rates and longer solving times.
For example, if you have 30 proxies in a rotating list for Xevil recaptcha, try 20 or even 15 threads to give them a break and I bet you'll see a lot more green there provided you have good proxies. Plus, if you have shared proxies you never know what the other users are doing or how hard they are being hammered on.
Heard more then once around here that you need socks 5 proxies for that, but not totally sure about that.
Though, I have not had it running in few weeks so maybe things have changed?
You should have a much higher sucess rate with Xevil, maybe try putting that service first and double checking/adding "nueral networks" to more then just the default one. Theres a bunch in there.
Good Luck!
I will try that now with Xevil and just signed up to Serpcloud.
I left it blasting and just got online now the success rate is like this:
I'll try your suggestions and report back. Thanks!
I've started paying for GSASERlists
Don't ever pay for a list. They are all shit. Learn how to create your own list ( Not from Google, with Scrapebox)
I've started paying for catchall emails
It costs $12 to create unlimited catchall emails on Zoho. Learn that
I use Solidseo VPS
Ready-made Windows VPSs are overpriced. Learn how to install Windows on a Linux machine.
I paid for Xevil
Ok
I added some money to OpenAI and get articles from there into SER
Ok
I just paid for Spinrewriter and I'm now using their API to spin the AI articles.
Ok
I've bought 30 proxies from buyproxies (20 for SER, 10 for Xevil) good idea or not?
I got the MOZ chrome extension for PA/DA.
PA/DA is a shit metric, let alone MOZ. The truth is, you don't really need PA/DA data for the websites where you want to place backlinks. Supply is limited anyway.
I am using Xevil 5 as the primary captcha solver, capmonster.cloud as a backup and for hCaptchas.
Some sites have not implemented Captchas correctly, thus the errors you are seeing. Below a screenshot of the capmonster.cloud log.
VPS: Take a look at the Hetzner VPS where you can install Windows with minimal effort.
Spintax: If you own a license of Scrapebox and the Article Scraper plugin, you can generate Spintax with it through the OpenAI-API. This works very well also for non-English content.
Link Lists: You can scrape your own using the footprints in SER or - if you have Xrumer - extract footprints. @royalmice has a great instruction on how-to: https://asiavirtualsolutions.com/use-xrumer-to-find-foot-prints-for-gsa-search-engine-ranker/. Buying link lists seems to be a religion although these all overlap. Worst I have experienced is "SER Verified Lists" which does not even provide identified targets but pure rubbish.
Catchalls: I suggest you to try the IPv6 proxies in Xrumer first to see how this improves your efforts. I am using my own catchalls. It is some minutes of work to set up your own mail server on a small Linux VPS: https://www.linuxbabe.com/mail-server/postfixadmin-ubuntu
Metrics: Do these matter to Google? I doubt it. If you are really into metrics, https://seo-rank.my-addr.com/ gives you MOZ, Semrush and ahrefs figures at a low price.
Indexer: It is pointless to build links if these are not getting indexed at all. Consider an indexer at least for your T1 links to see results in organic traffic.
@organiccastle how to get this picture?I can't find it on GSA
I do have scrapebox, so I will look into re-learning how to get my own. I assumed these verified lists were better, but it's been a long time since I did any of this.
I'll look into Zoho!
For now, I'll just stick with the vps I got. I can think about changing or w.e in future.
Ok, thanks. I'll keep 30 proxies for SER only then. And look into getting ipv6 for Xevil!
So PA doesn't matter anymore when passing juice through dofollow links? What do you mean supply is limited?
Thanks @malcom!
Thanks for the reply! Your solve rates look good, definitely going to get ipv6 proxies. Ahh that makes sense with the errors.
I do own scrapebox, it didn't occur to me to use it to spin articles. Don't you think it's easier/more simplified just using OpenAI and letting SER spin them with my spinrewriter API? It's then all auto, especially in future if working with multiple projects.
I will setup my own catchalls then, makes sense. Do you see them burn out often/at all?
I have been running email marketing for the past 2-3 years, I can easy make catchalls but I assumed I'd be swtiching them out often so thought of using a service.
I did consider indexing services, I used to use them a lot, but I recently seen contradicting information on them so I thought I'd wait.
Thanks for your replies guys, I just dove in to ensure I get the ball rolling, now I can tweak/change and get closer to the perfect setup especially with your advice.
I asked this years ago, and the answer depends on a lot of variables.. But how long does it take you to rank these days? Picture your own strategies now, if implementing on a new site, what time scale do you expect to get yourself top 10. Too many variables I know, just a figure would help give me an idea on say low-med competition keywords.
Thanks!
Edit: nvm, right clicking done it!
Spintax: Spinrewriter is probably better (for English content). I don't have a subscription so I am happy to pay per use through Scrapebox / OpenAI.
Catchalls: I've ever experienced any to be blocked / blacklisted. It is a one time effort to set up the postfix thing and it just runs.
Indexing: I did wait, too. Too long. Used GSA Indexer plus various workarounds with sitemaps, more tiers, etc.. Now, I am happy to pay less than a cent to get my links indexed. Still running GSA Indexer and tiers though.
Results: I can see results within a week, 10 days for easy to medium keywords. Quite impressive. The content on your site makes a huge impact. GSA Keyword Research with its Article Writer is a beast to create & improve it. Take the suggestions + your original content, task OpenAI to improve it accordingly, give it a final touch and you'll rank way better and for so many more keywords. Yes, there is an additional cost for the license plus the APIs, but it will pay back in no time.
Yes not long after your post I bought them after trying multiple times (Russian/Rubles card not working etc) and it's running at 50 threads, although at the time I tested it was using just 12 or something. They seem much better though, thanks!
Yes I agree, for now anyway it's gonna help make that easier with spinrewriter.
That's great about catchalls, going to make my own now!
Less than a cent? That's awesome.
Yeah that's really impressive and happy to hear it! No special t1 stuff, just all through GSA and scraping your own links etc?
I'll definitely have to get the Keyword Research tool, does that also work better than Keyword Planner? (forgive me if that's stupid, like I said, it's been years!) haha
Thanks for your input, much appreciated!
So do you guys who use 5, just ignore those errors? Or scrape sites likely to not have v3? (above info is according to reproxy.network) I asked them because I thought it was proxy error.
So I started using reproxy.network, they advised the UKR ipv6 so that's what I'm using and check this:
No idea why/what's going on. I have these selected in cores:
Is this the issue?
I dont see how that solve rate is possibly that bad for Xevil 5???
I ran a test a few months back and had 65,000 captchas solved with less then a handful of errors in Xevil 5.
Something in your settings must need to be adjusted.
I have had mine set like yours above without hotmail but also checked the one before and after it. That gave me best results in my testing. It seemed to identify and choose the correct network and lets you know on front end what one it used to solve. Maybe start there and change as needed.
I dont think that error has anything to do with upgrading to "6" either unless they are "moving features" to a new version again which really would be dishonest enough of a move to make me not use it anymore. Seems they have been doing this for some time now. You buy it and then features "moved" to next version and then theres a 10 dollar monthly fee which in the video says its optional but does not seem so?
I was using low amount of no special proxies either. I was just playing around with different neural nets and changing the proxies in the list with given options until I had a consistant solve. I think always its like that for me with these systems working together. It's a bitch at first but then you hit a "sweet spot" with your settings/integrations and things start going much smoother from there.
I think maybe your issue is settings, and seems misleading to have GSA CB set first and then Xevil second. I don't know if your randomly selecting services or in and ceratin order, or telling certain servcies to solve certain captchas? retries? skips? etc.. Did you put xevil as your "send captchas to 1st service" and move Xevil to the first service or similiar and try? Otherwise the solve rate is going to be higher for first service as its getting all the capcthas first and sending the others of to other services (dependant on settings)
I only have Xevil 5 as well. You should not need Xevil 6 for Recaptcha but for the "gpu acceralated module" that was coming out 2 years ago and for "h" , "fun" and "clouflaire" as their marketing suggests. I recently contacted them to ask how "6" was coming along and they took 1.5 weeks to answer the question and the response was just ..." log into the tech forum and then click the banner on your xevil and purchase it" .... Well no shit but thats what I asked. I wanted to know the state of version "6"
And the forum seems as dead as the "new" Money Robot FB one with pinned posts from 2015 and well known "fake profiles" trying to boost confidence of the random users who will pop in.
Capcloud was same way I asked how the state of things were for solving "h" and "fun" and got shit response back. Seems in my experience 2captcha is best for solving these and give you client libraries on how to solve every type if you want to do it on your own. Ive been using for 10+ years. Everything has been great so im not going to fix something thats not broken with something that is.
I dont know if you remember but I just thought of when we were all in here trying to solve the "double blobs" with EVE ocr, takes me back. lol
My experience CB to Xevil to 2captcha give best results or just Xevil to 2captcha. I like to use CB for its extra functionality which is great for testing.
Scrapebox - yes they have added another premium plugin that uses Openai API and have done a lot of recent changes to it. They updated the batch poster and added a few more premium plugins I noticed too. Havent had tons of time to play with it yet but seems some time has gone into developing it further which is nice to see. There was always option to scrape, spin and batch post articles to wordpress and a few other sites if you had the premium article plugin. I think the expired domain finder plugin was probably my most used premium plugin before this. As well as a few other for checking web 2.0 availability.
Still I think people dont understand the power of SER and Scrapebox and all its features. I'll admit it is intimidating at first and learning curve is too high for the average person. High enough that for most people the time to learn/cost vs paying someone else would probably be easier to outsource the work. You will not get friendly interface with either of these softwares. That being said they are not needed especially if just ripping through automation tasks and it would just slow things down.
You can tell someone with a hackerish thinking analytical mind was behind development of these softwares not from a UI/UX standpoint. Probably why they run so great once set up properly.
These tools I would exspect to find in Kali Linux build.
Anyways,
Let me know if you find solution to your solve rate. Im actaully going to go test Xevil now so maybe ill find something helpful..
Ill share if I do..
Seems to be the pattern of the way things go around here... a service works fine... then someone "mentions" it as "the best or only current working solution for X" (giving no reason or actaul case study behind why they think that) ... everyone repeats advice saying the service or solution is the way to go.... then soon the service is no longer working the same or as good as it was if at all anymore. Oh well.
About Xevil as it does seem to be trained very well on some captcha types. Its unclear as to why they keep promising features that keep getting pushed off (years) and marketing promises in forum are not lining up with what they claim anymore. It seems they were charging 150 USD for a beta version paticipation years ago and those features have not come to fruition years later after saying 2 weeks away. That's rediculous to charge for a beta version unless its just some kind of cash grab before the end as maybe they figured out they cant deliever the final working product? Im not sure yet but if it were me id be upfront with my customers, people understand as long as your honest with them, I think.
I really think that its headed towards using human captcha solvers like 2captcha for automating many of the "good" sites. Have you tried signing up for twitter or "X" account lately? It's 9 puzzles to solve and had to do it twice. I doubt anyone is going to automate that. And it would take a very long time to get all the puzzle answers and train a model for it.
Plus, Elon has unlimited resources for this if needed. All it took was for someone to build a twitter bot showing how easy it was to create 1000's of dummy account and test him. Now the average human cant sign up for X.
I do know when I put down last time the recaptcha module was not working the same as it was a few weeks before that.
Are you using xevil for certain types or just attempting all of them?
Plus, at that scale eventually you'll run out of good quality postable targets that will be placed, indexed and stick anyways. (just a waste of resources to spend time on a majority of them)
Good practice to grow your own list. (even niche/project specific)
I think its also worth noting that some people forget or may not know how to use the tools to clean up their own global site lists.
You can dedupe domains and or urls. Then cleanup/ remove non working. This will probably take at least a few hours but its def worth doing once in awhile.
You may be amazed how much faster things go when you set up a new project, use your newly cleaned and deduped sitelist for just posting.
You can view statistics of sitelists as well per engine in tools and or compare lists.
Can even go another step more and get metrics of a list and remove ones of less then "X" metric whichever you like to go by and now you know in your global sitelist all URLs your posting to have a certain "value" to them.
It's harder to imagine whats going on in SER being so complex in comparison to some other softwares but this is where good templates will make the difference.
If you have good templates and a global sitelist full of a certain "quality" urls now you can use that and create advanced templates with links that will actually power up your other links/projects.
Also, it's easy to test like this and measure/see whats working and whats not and can adjust templates accordingly.
Maybe this will help and it's just my experience/opinion.
So what's way are you uesd to index baklinks? I use Indexer and buliding tiers for projects. Google index is so slow.I indexed backlinks 18 days ago,only few backlinks were indexed.
how to find more high quality lists to post backlinks?
Thanks, I'll keep playing around with settings. I have it set as "ask all services to fill captchas". I'll try with the engines selected as organiccastle showed a screenshot of and see how that goes.
I will also try with XEvil first and CB second etc, like you say.. gotta find a sweet spot
I'm playing around for now, just blasting a blog I made getting used to the systems again.
I'll definitely allocate some time to learn scraping my own again, more relevant to niches etc.
I left it blasting since my last post and have results like this:
Maybe all I need is the extra neuronets, time will tell and when I finally get to a better % I'll update how.
Here's my settings for XEvil in SER:
I had retries at 2, just changed to 1.
Also, I moved XEvil above CB now, see how it goes.
Maybe it could also be the sitelists? The types of sites it's trying to solve captchas on?
This is an improvement which is good, but would love 60%+
Edit: I just noticed in my previous post, I have Recaptcha v3 selected. If reproxy.network support said I need XEvil 6 for that, should I untick Recaptcha v3 then?
I'll do that, reset stats and check again later.
My memory was vague, it was serprobot I loved because it tells you the first rank seen, then also it's best rank, and latest like this:
So it was great to see a new url pop in at 86 for example, and then see that it then changes to 12, if it moves back to 19, it will keep the best at 12 so we know the best position it's been at.
They have updated UI since I used it, but it's still the same so I'm happy
Had to check emails from 2013/2014
Maybe you have X6 and it works great for H cap Idk but if you have 5 like me def untick try for H.
I have X-5 and use 2captcha for those other types that are best solved by humans. Maybe try adding human solving service to grab the ones the software can't get.
I wouldnt believe anything a service said that isnt 100 percent upfront with there customers, especially a blackhat russian software.
Dont be mistaken I think Xevil is a beast and it's probably currently the best software based solution Im aware of but I would just rather get infomation from people I trust or case studies and tests Ive done personally especially in the SEO industry.
I also notcied you said you have set to solve using all services I would check maybe putting it to "ask first service". Doublehceck behavior settings.
I dont know how big of a proxy pool you have or how many threads you have set? So maybe this could be some part of issue?
Maybe turn it down to a point you can watch whats going on in the GUI of the text part and the recaptcha part of Xevil and see if you can spot where the errors/fails are coming from?
Also note that the assurance rate in Xevil does not mean that 80 percent sucess rate, it means that its "80" sure its seen and been trained on that partical model.
I have seen 10 percent solve great and then 40 percent fail.
Also, with proxies probably best to have ones that would appear to be mobile or residential from a mix of sources. Bans happen much quicker and a lot of proxy providers are not being honest about what they are doing. No surprise there!
Im not sure about that either I was getting RC V 3 solved just yesterdat testing with the free unstable and limited proxies from webshare, but it was only at 10 threads. Short test but about 80 percent were being solved.
I wasnt having issues with "needing to upgrade to 6" for that to work just months ago so Im not sure how that could be now unless
1. whoever said that is also unsure of what they are taking about
or
2. Xevil has taken away ceratin features from five and added them to six again which wouldnt surprise me either.
Its hard to "know" eveyone says something different and things change all the time which is why I only trust what I see and do and or get info from a trusted transparent source who actually participates in what they preach not just sell services.
Probably H captcha has been the issue, and I had 50 threads too.
I'm using reproxy.network proxies which rotate and it looks like there is 999 ipv6 proxies in there for $5/mo.