@Pratick. Actually, I negative SEO'd myself as an eperiment. Sounds stupid but I always been in the mindset of "reverse engineering" things to see what really works instead of relying on rumormills. I've pulled the rank graph of my test.
Anyways, I recovered the rankings on the site by letting the sig profile links die off and building relevant contextual article links. You can see the recovery progressed quite nicely and I beat my previous rankings. I watched in BLM as the shitty links died off to confirm my results. SO, yeah you can recover but it's going to take some time because link age is a signal you can't fake. Might wanna build out some other properties and diversify your traffic streams in the meantime
Me, I spam 5000 - 20,000 links at every new site that I build, in one quick blast.
However, I've also played around with blasting 1 - 10k links a day at various test sites, and pretty much invariably they have ended up either heavily slapped or de-indexed after a couple of weeks to a month.
@2take2 so you're essentially saying that there is a threshold where Google views one as a weak spam attempt and views the other as a site going viral?
You have less ill effect from building 5-20k right off the bat vs building 1-10k right off the bat?
I have observed less ill effects through building lots of links in one quick blast (and letting them index naturally), than if I were to build them over a prolonged period of time.
Generally I would look at the competition of the niche and build as few links right off the bat as I need, i.e I wouldn't build 20k if 1k would be enough to have the desired effect.
That said, there does *seem* to be a ceiling of how many links you can get away with blasting at once, but there are too many variables for me to isolate exactly what it is.
Similar, but it just depends on the age of the site and the authority that it has. I don't touch the money site with anything but contextuals and some occasional social bookmarks though. Is that 20k blast all inclusive of other platforms?
@Pratik - I am confident that you were not singled out. He must be doing it to all affiliates on the first page. So the niche is now toxic. So on my way out of the niche I would...
I probably would create a nice porn project, and include every affiliate site on the first page of google. I will borrow the 30 minutes to do this from my TV time so that @JamPackedSpam doesn't scold me for non-moneymaking activities. Karma is a two way street. I would put 33% on porn anchors, 33% on the search term, and 33% on the term Google Sucks. At least 8 tiers deep. Then I would create a separate project with just indexer links. Bullies aren't so tough when they get their own medicine.
Now that I got that out of my system, if you decide to still compete, and not do negative seo, then I would listen to @sweeppicker. I think it is the proper approach. However, I seriously would consider moving on. You need to have dozens of niches to worry about so that you don't become obsessed with a bad situation. It sounds like a loser. Try a few things to see if they work, but keep working on other stuff. If you do that, the proper decision will be easier to see.
@jampackedspam, not all platforms no, but I do use non contextuals as well, as it helps to give me a nice amount of diversity, so that I can just build contextual tiers further down the line.
I lol'd ^ I'm just saying based on his response he sounded like this world was crumbling around him and that this was his sole income generating website so his time could definitely be spent better elsewhere. I go into seek and destroy mode too sometimes but I do it the right way and scrape all of their sites, not just those that are in my niches. @ron
The most important part of SEO is actually learning what you did wrong so you're better the next time around. Monitor your activities and see if you can understand the cause and effect on and you will be 2 steps ahead of the next guy.
@JamPackedSpam No need to pity me if that is what you wanted to hint around. I've several sites going on at the moment, however none making money yet as they're relatively new. But I do have my own source of income. Yeah, I'm new to these "bad boys" stuff but learning still good.
@sweeppicker Interesting advise. But I learnt one thing in this SEO stuff, you never know when some bird flew above you and shit over you, like how this occurred out of the box today without any prior knowledge lol.
Lol, that prick is going on and on. Built another 1.2K links yesterday as per ahrefs. So I try to dilute and he continues to spam and the rate stays same.
@Pratik - I'm just curious which niche your website is in. I honestly haven't run into neg seo, so I find it interesting that someone would do that.
Regardless, you won't fix this situation. It sounds like you are on a daily dose of crap, so I wouldn't waste a lot of time. I would see if I could use that exact same content on a new site, and target some different terms. If that doesn't make sense, then move along.
But on the way out, I would hit every affiliate on page 1 with more of the same. That keyword is now toxic, and I bet everybody got hit. Try looking on ahrefs at each affiliate site on page 1. The one with the clean link profile is probably the guy. Go get 'em!
@ron Yup, that is what the course of action is now. I've made my mind and well, trying my best to see if I could make the situation topsy-turvy. I decided right at the start, that this December, right after my exams end, I'll be making nice new 3-4 niche sites this month. So well, obviously you get hurt when one of your best money making niche site gets shot down lol.
Btw, I'm in CPA, promoting a direct offer. CPA has a hell lot of competition these days it seems. Major part of it comes from kiddos that cannot do a shit and rather spoils the business of successful guys lol.
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However, I've also played around with blasting 1 - 10k links a day at various test sites, and pretty much invariably they have ended up either heavily slapped or de-indexed after a couple of weeks to a month.
But that's just my own personal experience.
I have observed less ill effects through building lots of links in one quick blast (and letting them index naturally), than if I were to build them over a prolonged period of time.
Generally I would look at the competition of the niche and build as few links right off the bat as I need, i.e I wouldn't build 20k if 1k would be enough to have the desired effect.
That said, there does *seem* to be a ceiling of how many links you can get away with blasting at once, but there are too many variables for me to isolate exactly what it is.
How about you?