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Are Even The Worst Spammed And Oversold Paid Lists Good For Tier Three?

DeeeeeeeeDeeeeeeee the Americas
edited February 2025 in Need Help
Let's say you have a garbage list of over-posted sites and maybe toxic sites and banned sites, as well.
Are these OK at T3? T5? Any tier at all???

Just wondering what others think on this..

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  • the_other_dudethe_other_dude USA
    I suppose this depends on your purpose for making the tier of links. Tier 3 usually has a purpose to get links crawled on the higher tiers. To try to get links crawled most people prefer engines that post on pages which are already indexed, like blog comments and guest books. 

    These are very easy to scrape and find yourself but if you wanted to skip that there’s no problem with buying a list for this purpose. 

    I still recommend scraping your own list even for this purpose. You’ll get better targets that are actually indexed and still alive. 
  • sickseosickseo London,UK
    I've recently moved away from using these low quality link sources.

    I've done plenty of testing with blog comments, guestbooks, redirects, indexer type links. (70+ gsa ser installs running for several months)

    I have thousands of these sites in my site list and have been using them as a tool for crawling/indexing T1/2/3 links from my other tools. I'm getting zero results from running this strategy these days. That's using scraped lists from Google as well, not paid lists. Not seeing any indexing results from running this startegy.

    I've abandoned this strategy now and don't use these link sources anymore.

    Maybe 3 years ago it was an effective strategy, but these days it seems google is mostly ignoring these link types.

    With regards to toxic links, something like those network solutions indexer links would fall into this category. They have the highest spam scores I've ever seen - all the way up to 100%. Anything you point them at will just raise the spam score - eventually rolling down to your money site.

    Whether a high spam score matters with google is another question as even top ranking sites such as Amazon have high spam scores - you can't control who links to you. I've never seen any rank boosts from using these types of links, so personally I avoid them all now.


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  • organiccastleorganiccastle Germany
    I still see value in link building - especially for tiered structures. But let’s be honest: even top Google rankings no longer guarantee traffic. The SERPs are filled with ads, AI overviews, answer boxes - so much so that position 1 often brings fewer clicks than it used to.

    My clients have caught on. They don’t want ranking reports anymore; they want leads and conversions. Visibility alone isn’t enough - results matter.

    On my own sites, I’ve seen a 95% drop in AdSense revenue over the past year, despite good rankings. That’s a wake-up call. Why keep investing purely in Google SEO when traffic doesn’t convert or monetize?

    I still use tools like GSA SER for tiered campaigns or indexing support - but my focus has shifted. Forums, niche communities, and even social platforms are delivering more engaged, high-converting traffic. Sometimes, that one helpful post in the right thread is worth more than a thousand tier-3 backlinks.

    And let me ask you honestly: do you still use Google Search to scroll through 20 pages hoping to find a decent result? Or do you just ask ChatGPT and get a clear answer - plus sources - within seconds?

    Bottom line: SEO isn’t dead, but it’s evolving fast. We can still use the tools - but let’s make sure they serve real business goals, not just a spot on page one.
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  • the_other_dudethe_other_dude USA
    sickseo said:
    I've recently moved away from using these low quality link sources.

    I've done plenty of testing with blog comments, guestbooks, redirects, indexer type links. (70+ gsa ser installs running for several months)

    I have thousands of these sites in my site list and have been using them as a tool for crawling/indexing T1/2/3 links from my other tools. I'm getting zero results from running this strategy these days. That's using scraped lists from Google as well, not paid lists. Not seeing any indexing results from running this startegy.

    I've abandoned this strategy now and don't use these link sources anymore.

    Maybe 3 years ago it was an effective strategy, but these days it seems google is mostly ignoring these link types.

    With regards to toxic links, something like those network solutions indexer links would fall into this category. They have the highest spam scores I've ever seen - all the way up to 100%. Anything you point them at will just raise the spam score - eventually rolling down to your money site.

    Whether a high spam score matters with google is another question as even top ranking sites such as Amazon have high spam scores - you can't control who links to you. I've never seen any rank boosts from using these types of links, so personally I avoid them all now.


    I personally noticed this method of indexing to become ineffective starting around late 2015. By the end of 2016 I have no longer been able to get links indexed using this method. I am confident in saying I believe many of the link indexing services that died back then were using this method. 
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  • the_other_dudethe_other_dude USA
    organiccastle said:
    I still see value in link building - especially for tiered structures. But let’s be honest: even top Google rankings no longer guarantee traffic. The SERPs are filled with ads, AI overviews, answer boxes - so much so that position 1 often brings fewer clicks than it used to.

    My clients have caught on. They don’t want ranking reports anymore; they want leads and conversions. Visibility alone isn’t enough - results matter.

    On my own sites, I’ve seen a 95% drop in AdSense revenue over the past year, despite good rankings. That’s a wake-up call. Why keep investing purely in Google SEO when traffic doesn’t convert or monetize?

    I still use tools like GSA SER for tiered campaigns or indexing support - but my focus has shifted. Forums, niche communities, and even social platforms are delivering more engaged, high-converting traffic. Sometimes, that one helpful post in the right thread is worth more than a thousand tier-3 backlinks.

    And let me ask you honestly: do you still use Google Search to scroll through 20 pages hoping to find a decent result? Or do you just ask ChatGPT and get a clear answer - plus sources - within seconds?

    Bottom line: SEO isn’t dead, but it’s evolving fast. We can still use the tools - but let’s make sure they serve real business goals, not just a spot on page one.
    I completely agree with you. Some people might be surprised how many people will buy things they are looking for reviews about just from a few well placed comments from anonymous users. I spend a lot of time on creating accounts that look and feel real on those platforms as well. 

    And Reddit/niche forums rank on their own :)
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