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Protecting Money Site From Negative SEO

Rkt77Rkt77
edited January 2014 in Feature Requests
Hello guys.
I bought license recently and registered here to learn and share my experience!
There is one feature that I would love to see, I don't know if it was already suggested before. But let's go to the point.
A few weeks ago someone screwed my website with blast of 5K bad backlinks and I analyzed the anchor they made.
I know it was blasted with GSA because of type of backlinks, anchor that was used and other footprints.
So my suggestion is to let us assign our money site url to our license/account and prevent someone from using that site to do negative SEO.
Only user who attached the website to its account will be able to make backlinks for it.
Thanks, regadrs!
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  • tsaimllctsaimllc
    lol not gonna happen. I could list the long list of reasons why this is a bad idea. (but I wont).
  • Rkt77Rkt77
    edited January 2014
    @tsaimllc
    Why?
    One of them is: I won't be able to ruin my competition anymore?!
  • tsaimllctsaimllc
    lol, I don't do negative SEO.. fine the reasons are (if you think for 2 seconds):

    -none of us who are actively using GSA SER daily want to have to verify each site we are creating (and with churn and burn, that is like 10 per week) meaning have to install something on our server, for GSA to verify over and over

    -I dont want anyone (even the delveopers here) having a list of all my niches/domains.

    -no.
  • Rkt77Rkt77
    @tsaimllc
    Well, that's really selfish of you. If you don't want something, don't prevent others from having it.
    You don't need to use it. It would be optional feature for people who want to protect their work.
    Why do you use GSA if you don't trust them (including their developers)...
  • tsaimllctsaimllc
    optional would be fine, but then, if this was optional, then couldnt I build links to my competitors anyway? lol. that would have to be a required feature that not anyone is going to want to deal with.
  • Rkt77Rkt77
    edited January 2014
    @tsaimllc
    If you use the feature, people won't be able to build bad links to your site.
    If you don't use it they will be able. So that's what I call optional and it's so simple.
    Let's hear what other people and staff think about this..
    I accidentaly marked your answers as accepted xD
  • fakenickahlfakenickahl
    I'm with @tsaimllc on this one.. There's no way I'd want to submit every site I create, and if people really does become unable to do negative seo with ser then they're just going to use other software like scrapebox, xrumer and so on. At least ser gives you link diversity instead of only blog comments.
  • Rkt77Rkt77
    edited January 2014
    You missed this part of my suggestion man,
    it would be optional, no one will force you to use it, next think before answering...
    And I would use this for every bigger project where I have too many competitors who can build bad links.
  • 2Take22Take2 UK
    Apart from all of the other reasons mentioned, what about if I were to register one of my competitor's sites as my own (knowing that they were using SER to build links to their site)?
  • tsaimllctsaimllc
    well @2take2 I thought that too but youd have to verify its your site by putting a file on your site or code (like google analytics)
  • 2Take22Take2 UK
    Great minds think alike! :))

    As you say tsaimllc, I can't see this happening any time soon. lol
  • Rkt77Rkt77
    edited January 2014
    @tsaimllcThat's a great idea, can't wait for someone from staff to check this suggestion... thanks!
  • rodolrodol
    lol @rkt77 negative SEO is one of the IM problems that you have to live with... there is no "cure" for this and there is nothing you can do about it.... just don't do it, like everyone on this forum "i'm so naive"... 
  • JudderManJudderMan UK
    Many of us have clients, so it's not a good idea in my opinion. I have sites that I don't want public knowledge too. Negative SEO only works if you know how to really make regular SEO work, so it's gonna happen either way, with GSA SER or any other tool. You just have to be on your toes WHEN it happens to you.
  • Rkt77Rkt77
    edited January 2014
    Ok guys. I have read all the answers. Here is my final idea:
    -Every user that has licence would get its unique verification ID based on license or so.
    -The user includes that ID in its website (like google analytics code, etc).
    -GSA will check each URL when adding URLs to the project.
    -If GSA detects an ID in one of the added URLs, it will check if it matches with your ID from the program.
    -If not matching, the URL will be removed and user warned that the URL is protected.
    -But if GSA didn't see any verification ID, GSA will do nothing.
    -GSA won't check the URLs that are added as tier links but will check the URLs when importing verified links from files and clipboard.
    This can be also suggested to other developers who developed Senuke, Ultimate Demon, No Hands SEO, etc..
    This could significantly reduce negative SEO globally.
  • fakenickahlfakenickahl
    This will in no way protect you from negative seo. There are still other ways to do negative seo than spamming a website to death. For example one way around your solution would simply be to 301 a domain to your competitor and blast that, and wait for the penalty to carry through. And you still missed my main point from my previous post that people doing negative seo would just move to other software as scrapebox and xrumer. I just don't think that you're going to get this feature in every seo tool on the market.

    Another major concern I'd have is when google starts looking for the same code which ser would look for to identify a website. That's a huge footprint and a very easy way to destroy every website which uses ser for backlinks.
  • JudderManJudderMan UK
    If you insist on this being a good idea, you should head over to the Xrumer guys as that's the tool that kills sites easier than SER. 
  • SvenSven www.GSA-Online.de

    Sorry, this is not working because of macros and tiers. A tier is not your URL and it will allow you to build links to it anyway.

    If someone has proof of people using negative SEO with our software, pm me the link and I see if I can identify that in one or the other way. I will just deactivate the license of this person.

  • Rkt77Rkt77
    It's hard to identify the exact person. Thanks for answering Sven.
  • SvenSven www.GSA-Online.de
    I might be able to identify it when you send me the URLs created in pm.
  • goonergooner SERLists.com
    I feel sorry for anyone who is the victim of negative SEO, but @sven you start going into very dangerous territory when you become judge and jury on that subject.
  • s4nt0ss4nt0s Houston, Texas
    edited January 2014
    @Sven - I definitely wouldn't deactivate anyones license over "negative" SEO. Someone tried to do this to my blog and built over 1,000,000 links with crappy anchor texts and while a lot of the links have dropped off, there are still 500,000 spam links built to my blog. You know what has happened since the links were built months ago? Nothing.

    Rankings are still good, traffic is on the incline and all is well. I'm honestly not convinced about "negative SEO".

    Even if SER added that feature it could still easily be done with Scrapebox, Gscraper, Xrumer and a ton of other tools. Big waste of time to even worry about negative SEO.
  • theseo1theseo1
    edited January 2014
    @sven What would justify canceling this guy's license? I mean he paid for the software, what he does with it is up to him. In the end the usage of SER is spam anyway. The whole negative SEO discussion is pretty much strange, personally I prefer to save resources for my own link building but then again, everybody should be able to decide what you do. You can do 'negative seo' with virtually ANY link building software. 

    I 100% agree it's not your intention to provide a software for this, but the moment you allow massive back link creation you effectively just did so.

    Beside that, how about the 'negative seo' effects tiered backlinking has to 'legit' sites? Would that cause a suspension as well? I mean there are enough users in the spammy niches to seriously blow up the linkprofile of any website we place an article / link on. Kinda tough to separate from each other.
  • SvenSven www.GSA-Online.de

    Just have a look at this "negative SEO" I got reported and you would see it's not only that but ruins your brand. IF someone spreads porn links with anchor texts like "i am 12 and want to f***" then I have the right to fight against this person. It's unethical and very very annoying that SER is used for this.

    I don't want such customers!

  • goonergooner SERLists.com
    I am worried it could be abused, used to ban competitors licenses. I am just saying... Be careful please @sven
  • michamicha Uk
    edited January 2014
    It is not good idea, banning users for their activities.
  • michamicha Uk
    edited January 2014
    "I might be able to identify it when you send me the URLs created in pm."

    @Sven, are you spying us? Your users?
  • SvenSven www.GSA-Online.de
    Im not spying of course but I do my best to identify who does this crap. Don't worry, I will not add this suggestion but from what I have seen this guy did, you would do the same.
  • michamicha Uk
    @Sven, ok, that is wise.
  • Rkt77Rkt77
    edited January 2014
    @s4nt0s
    Someone made just 5K crap porn backlinks to my site and I am completely penalized.
    In my opinion think everyone who is doing this crap should be caught, doesn't matter if you made 500 or 500K bad links to someones website. It's just not ethical to destroy someones work and that should be punished...
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