Do low quality links hurt you? Is it too late to go back?

ZelloGames

I have a domain that I have been blasting with PR 0 links (I'm brand new and had no experience)

My question is, do those PR 0 links actually hurt you?

Say you build 10k links that are low quality, and then you switch to a high quality method with the whole web 2.0 + high quality articles/documents SER only for Tier 1 for the same domain

I am assuming that although the PR 0 links don't help as much, they don't hurt either, right?

Or should I be using a completely different domain now?

davbel

"My question is, do those PR 0 links actually hurt you?"
Not necc, but diversity is the answer.

Would a normal site only get lots of only 10 of one link then 10k of another?

ZelloGames

Awesome thank you

I guess a few PR0 links and diversity don't hurt in addition to Web 2.0's 

ron

If you don't see rankings traction, then yes, it hurt you. At best you might get some short term gain followed by a forever penalty. At worst you are already screwed. I would start building some new sites doing things the right way. The wrong way is blasting 10,000 crappy links directly at your website.

ZelloGames

Thank you.

So far only 2000 crappy links were created in total, but in the mix there were some good ones.

I will stop right now and not use crappy links directly to my moneysite again, hopefully I will be okay

I don't want to lose the domain

spunko2010

I wouldn't worry. When I first started using GSA I generated 6k spam links to my MS by accident. Still ranking for that term too in positon 4

ZelloGames

Cheers! Thanks spunko

I am now focusing all my efforts on a manual Web 2.0 blog that serves as:

#1 a link to my site

#2 a second landing page with its own adsense

I figured, if anything is going to be hit by bad links its the blogger link itself and not my website

sweeppicker

PR2+ is fine for Tier 1. Aim for contextual links. These will serve you best.  I would be curious what others experience has been with using lots of PR0 at the Tier 2 level. I usually keep my filters turned off at T2. I may have 5,000 PR1+ and then 5,000 PR0 pointing to a Tier 1. Not sure if the PR0s actually do anything. lol. 

Startrip

dont worry.

i never gave a flying crap about PR and im ranking fine.

it's not your fault when smb builds links to your page..? its natural that you have links from PR0-sites since most sites have PR0.

if it could hurt, i would just blast the Top10 away to make space for my site lol.

@sweeppicker i dont use PR-filter even for T1 ... it doesnt make sense especially for contextual links which are always PR0 ... i never ever lost a page because of "too many, too bad" links. thats google scare tactics and i really have to smile when people believe it. as long as u dont use 100% main-anchor it doesnt hurt (and even that works for a while). look at the BLprofiles of some #1 pages in health/fitness/viagra-niche and you will see how google (and the warrior forum ) brainwashed us.

I do T1 context/T1 direct links without filters (not even badword) and then i blast T1 context away with every shitty link i can find. works fine at the moment.

Regards

rodol

hey @startrip are you ranking using only SER?

PeterParker

i think it more about the type of link than the PR. cos when i first read the guide by ozz on here i didnt know 90% of gsa links are profiles so blasted those to money site as well. these were all pr3+ mind you.

lo and behold a few weeks later im slapped with a penalty.

Antoehr example is i did w2 top tier and xrumer lower. i thought i had excaped a penalty and began gettign overconfident blasting other sites i was afraid to before and lo and behold today i realized the fucker has now been hit so now im worried ive poisoned the sites i was keeping like like a virgin .

my only hope is that i also did gsa on those tiers so im crossing my fingers the diversity will dilute them but dont hold my breath with heartless and callous google. never giveing me a break.

In fuutre now i have to factor in the 3-4 week time for tiers to filter thru to see results.

gooner

In all honesty people talk about PR2+ or whatever, but that is the page rank of the homepage NOT the page your link is from.

Page rank refers to a page, not a domain and yes link juice filters through to inner pages - that's why inner pages of some sites also have PR1 or whatever. But if a page your link is on is PR0 or PR N/A that is the value of the link, nothing more, Page rank of the domain really has nothing to do with SEO so don't worry about it.

As @peterparker said it's the type of link that matters, if you have 2,000 blog comment or forum links to your site than you may suffer. If you have 2000 contextual links you'll probably be ok.

Startrip

@rodol yes.

i know it is a crash and burn game when you do your T1 that way, but for quick money its ok. i just dont spent too much time with the pages (get the content written by a student that i hired and use a modified version of flexsqueezepage because its fast). That way 1 page takes me less than 2 hours and costs me ~30 bucks.

And - tbh - i dont give much on conversion rate. This may be childish, but rather than working on 50% more conversion on 1 page i just blast out 2 other pages. I mostly do amazon and its not hard to get to 5% CR once they click your link. im fine with that.

And btw - most pages rank way longer than they should, despite i really dont treat them like raw eggs. i sometimes start building links before they are indexed. Some websites are 6 Month of age now and even my first projects where I didnt know much about SER and just "tested around" are still ranking. Some are even ranking #1-#3 (rootdomain first and then 2 subpages...) for the same keyword. And what i did was pure spam, even blog comments on T1 etc. because i didnt really know what i was doing

disclaimer: maybe this is because im ranking in germany for german terms. and im even using german content. i modified all files in SER to make it "supergerman" and that way i dont leave fooprints

we are in the stoneage here when it comes to IM...

btw, for longterm im building a PR network right now - it's the only thing that will survive the next decade imho. But as long as spam works i'll stick to that..