ashlyadams Im sry Idk what you mean by "If you google warez , crack like search terms it still shows up even google accept dmca etc."
But if a large percent of there "web 2.0 blogs" are based on the same platform and look identical. Couldnt you just identitfy that platform and import them into GSA without the need for Money robot to create "those" in the first place?
Did you share a screen shot or something IM not seeing because I dont understand the following comment either. . .
" If you check MR link profile you will see most of links built with GSA blasts lol"
Are you talking about links built to the generic blog looking sites in software?
Also, web 2.0 blogs while still serve there purpose don't work like they used to, the days of "your-money-keyword.weebly.com" all over the first page in Google com are over and have been for like 10 years. Im in USA maybe its differnt elsewhere.
Wish it was still that easy! - I remember when you could create a squidoo lense with affiliate links and gernerate decent money very quickly.
I agree SER makes great companion for any link building tool, kinda like Scrape Box for many different reasons.
"Even the root domain contains junk sub domains as long as root domain gives a value with quality content it still matter."
I beliveve sub domains are treated differntly now then in past and thats why authority is not passed directly to them from root like it used to be but maybe I am mistaken.
Maybe I will give it a test upon some more research, Im and automation software junkie
I get excited whenever I see "an update availiable" still after owning SER for over 10 years.
Totally agreed what you said about updates. They never wanted to improve the software. But still i use time to time cause most of their links getting indexed for no reason. And the biggest advantage is we don't need anything as long as the owner owns all the links. About footprints now i am going to speechless -___ -
Not much has changed since then: GSA SER got better and still provides the best bang for your buck and the best support of all 3. Money Robot, well, not much has changed - still mainly using their domains, but still popular with some link builders, especially if you like toxic backlinks, but it has the most straightforward GUI of all the tools. RankerX still has the worst workflow. This product is based on the 2015 Senuke, and not much has changed, but they are providing regular updates on the platforms, .
Not much has changed since then: GSA SER got better and still provides the best bang for your buck and the best support of all 3. Money Robot, well, not much has changed - still mainly using their domains, but still popular with some link builders, especially if you like toxic backlinks, but it has the most straightforward GUI of all the tools. RankerX still has the worst workflow. This product is based on the 2015 Senuke, and not much has changed, but they are providing regular updates on the platforms, .
@backlinkaddict I like to see these types of posts in the forums where people always contribute.
Rankerx is one of my favorites for usability, you install it on a VPS or Dedicated and you can access its GUI as if it were a website. But, to create personalized lists it falls short.
GSASER is the best automation software from my point of view, since you can do anything by programming an engine, including registering on sites where they use javascript, the only problem is not being able to automate websites where interaction with the page is required.
@backlinkaddict that was basically the tactic of the ALN 'pbn' network back in 2011/2012. I'm surprised Money Robot/SEOAP network of sites are still indexed as it's trivial to uncover them
He's probably in different timezone. So just wait for his reply.
Also try to restart the software - usually solves issues. My installs are running fine, new links are showing in report tab.
Hi, How do you check verified backlinks for multiple money sites? Because MR Backlink monitor doesn't support multiple money sites or homepage links, you can check only one primary link at once, so what is the solution for multiple primary links?
Hello. I have been using Money Robot for many years. But a problem arose. When building PBN articles on blogs, media wikis and other platforms, it is not possible to create. The links look like this: https://kylercqeq75432.widblog.com/78155972/article-under-review. everywhere similar link endings:.../article-under-review . I tried to do it both without a proxy and using various proxies, as well as the proxies that Money Robot uses in the software itself by default. Help solve the problem
Probably should not be asking for money robot support in GSA forum!
If you are using article directories they don't own that might/would be normal. (held in moderation)
I briefly tried software as well and seemed that even though they are posting to sites they own they are having many issues doing even that. (servers always down etc)
Not one post working on a web 2.0 blog type of high quality ones of which they dont own. Notta 1?
The "send traffic to urls" shows no traffic in the log checked even though software said 100-200 sent to each url of about 25???
The facebook group is not active and comments are heavily moderated. (couldnt get response)
I joined and people spamming me from group about 50$ lifetime licenses.
The "send social signals" no facebook posts or shares whatsoever and maybe 3 or 4 tweets made on new accounts that cant be verified easilly?
The keyword research tool (scraper) works pretty well though if want list of quick heavily searched related keywords.
I tried with my good proxies also with no results so I switched to theirs as well in case maybe they only acceptted posts from their network but didnt change anything,
Still the "automate anything browser" which was coming in a few weeks a long time ago, seems to do nothing but give false hope to customers new features are coming.
I really want to like and I see potential but seems that developers to not care.
Probably easier to use chatgpt to teach you to create such tasks then wait for developers to fix this software.
What a waste of time and potential for now!
I really wanted to like the software and if worked as advertised and scripts updated it would be great.
SER still remains king!!! Has best seo forum, documentation and evergreen software.
A better companion to SER is zenno poster project maker (api project to connect in SER docs) and additions like serlib
I use MoneyRobot for only creating additional T2 links that get crawled and hopefully assists in getting my T1 links indexed. The owners of MR own every site that gets posted to. So understand that. There is no Tumblr or anything else, outside their own network. I must look at ZennoPoster one day, when I have the time and money. Seems like a helpful tool
He's probably in different timezone. So just wait for his reply.
Also try to restart the software - usually solves issues. My installs are running fine, new links are showing in report tab.
Hi, How do you check verified backlinks for multiple money sites? Because MR Backlink monitor doesn't support multiple money sites or homepage links, you can check only one primary link at once, so what is the solution for multiple primary links?
I agree while GSA SER at first (10 years ago ) I underestimated its power looking at the GUI initially. I remember the how long it took to set up my first campaign with proxies and started getting good links to appear in the pane. Then, how thrilled I was when I had captchas solving in Captcha Breaker at incredible speed. Watching automation is very satisfying for me.
At the time, I believe the only real video tutorials were Matthew Woodwards "tiered link building series" which if I remember correctly, he used SER quite heavily in.
I was also wondering about ranker X and Senkexcr recently and wonder why some of these companies don't update or create new versions other then minor changes.
I've come to the conclusion it's easier to use GSA SER and learn to code a bit which SER basiclly forces you to do anyways rather then keep hoping a "better version" of once great but fallen softwares will come out after 10 years of waiting.
I've beta tested and used most these softwares over the years as well as private ones. I have to say I always like Magic Submitter. The GUI is very nice, the integration with Magic Article Rewriter (while not integrated with spinners ) with pop-up on every input makes it easy to create spun campaigns and add macros, on the fly, the link manager filters and presents reports nicely, not having to worry about emails at all(unless you want your own data) is great. I am clueless as to why there is no popular forum and advanced wiki about training it for new sites?
However, I did try it again recently and found it couldn't connect to Google to grab keywords for scraping and when you manually add keywords to harvestor and tick on an engine to scrape links like [[media wiki]], the result was [[media wiki]] not a list of keyword related mediawiki sites. So that was not working and upon asking I get answer like "that is advanced feature not needed to worry about". True, while most people don't use or know features exist, I use/want those features the most.
Everything is a "secret" with some of these guys/developers. Secret meaning its doing something you can most likely figure out on your own or they dont understand what its doing and they are relying on another developer. Its easier sometimes doing it on your own than learn workflow in software which is suppossed to automate it making it pointless.
With the exception of @Sven of course. He is programming WIZARD and gives us easy access to modify every engine as we see fit and use his examples to create our own. Where does he find time to make all these amazing softwares and find time to continually help people out with support?
I will say as far as magic submitter, it always seems to have a few new (some deleted) updated social bookmarks (mainly what I used it for was bookmark runs and ranking youtube videos years ago), web 2.0 profiles, and web 2.0 blogs. Although not sure why added silkroad blog? Thought that was like a dark web drug factory that was busted many years ago. I wont be dropping my links there
I don't think GSA SER is going anywhere and it has best potential to be greatest automatic search engine optimization software or even better then it already is. Over the years there have been people who have tried to create "plugins" for advanced features but they come and go. Anyone remember the "tiered link builder window"? Or the social signals thing?
Currently, Ive been testing with Serlists web 2.0 add-on engines as well as using Javascript with there library to create my own. Just waiting for update. Its been great so far!
In the mean time im using Zenno project maker to create very advanced scripts, and the debugging tools inside the maker make it so easy to see and understand whats going on. With project maker on one screen1 and on screen 2 I put traffic log, the log, the browser im automating, the element tree and the element properties. This set up makes it super simple to pretty much make anything.
Not Zenno Poster but the Project maker Im talking about. If I could make/suggest the best seo software, It would have SER at its core (updated from 32 bit) some type of button near each data fields to make it easier to pop open spin/create content and close leaving your created data in data field. Then have GUI like Project maker to create your own engines in a GUI which would get added into the main SER GUI. Also a GUI that could create campaigns connecting projects and tiers in a project
Also, have human super emulation mode and way to create projects that act as "little bots" on your behalf. Visiting pages, watching videos, sending keyboards keys etc. . .
Not sure if I explained correctly but that would be F'ing AMAZING. Of course it would be recurring monthly fee or large lifetime fee but how amazing would that be?
Too much coffee, Ive said to much
Hope everyone has wonderful day . . . .
Man you typed all the things just with a coffee. How luck you are ... I would least get few beers and some edibles to get that same high lol... this is true. BTW i still wonder senuke exists.. going to check it out..
BTW you missed ultimate deamon.
PS :
I just wonder submitter and senuke and noticed still there.. are they really active ?
Well, it is as you say a pretty big coincidence as I am not the same tank you know.
The reason I asked the question, mainly because I saw your previous post and you mentioned all the older softwares: Senuke, Ultimate Demon, Backlink Beast, Licorne, Magic Submitter, ect.. And wondered if anyone has tried neo since I did not see it mentioned.
I do understand this is a GSA Forum but non gsa sofwares are mentioned here all the time including this very thread.
I'm interested to know the same. I had all of those old tools at one point, especially the edwinsoft suite of products and senuke - I lived inside those tools.
That's actually the cool thing about this forum. You CAN talk about other products and not get banned lol I actually got banned from the senuke forum because we kept talking about gsa ser lol That sort of controlling behaviour is just no good for a public forum. And where is senuke now? RIP
Don't forget that this forum is run by it's customers - that's us lol
SEO NEO looks good from the videos I've watched, but there is no way I'm paying their monthly fee to use it - no way lol If they brought out a lifetme license I may consider buying one of them. SEO AP just looks really slow at setting up campaigns as well as waiting for them to finish. I couldn't work with something that runs that slow.
I'm pretty heavily invested in GSA SER and rankerx and these 2 tools work great for me. No silly monthly fees either.
I did just buy another new tool which does google stacks: https://glinkzpro.com/ Not had a chance to test it out yet. The UI looks crap, but the link sources and concepts are excellent.
This google cloud stacking is not something I've ever tested before. I've been doing ok though with my current tools and strategies, so anything else I can get my hands on is just a real bonus really.
Seems I've arrived a little late to this party. Most of those domains will be DA100 or close to it, so that should be some crazy link juice being created across tiers. Will have to point a stack at one of my new PBNs with DA0/DR0 and TF0 and see what it does to the stats.
Hello. I would like to inform you with regret that the “Spin Artisles from Folders” button does not work in the project. From the articles folder, only one article file is used, and other article files remain untouched. A very big request to you. Make this button work. And for posting to blogs, articles were taken randomly from all files
Unfortunately there isn't anyone here that can help you with that problem.
Personally I don't use that option. I use article forge and word ai together and put my spun articles in a folder.
Are you still using money robot. I am also heavily invested on gsa and their add-ons and having success.
But I am still using money robot as their root domains still shows on Google whats your aspect on this..btw I don't use their monthly I purchased life time years back so I still use. That being said can you more input on spinning thing..lately I only use for 3.5 with gsa cg and spin with softspinner.
For better results should j use word ai or article forge I am bit lost with this Do you mean to say you generate articles with article forge and then spin with word ai ? Don't you believe on soft spinner ? I know it's junk than word ai for sure..I also own best spinner and never used ..I just want to cut down my expenses as I am spending lot of money on those. I have decent roi but I still have to cut lol
I got quite a few of the lifetime licenses. If you can get the links indexed, then yes, they can be good for rankings. Either as T1 or even as T2/3.
The metrics on the domains are pretty good aside from the high spam score, but that's just what the 3rd party tools like sem rush and seo moz say. Besides, authority site like Amazon uk has a 25% spam score and Amazon.com have a 28% spam score - I don't see them struggling with rankings in Google lol
To judge how good your spinner is, just preview the articles in GSA SER. If it reads well, then stick with what you have. If it reads like garbage, then you may have to revisit your set up. Chatgpt is good as a seed article. Also if you are seeing your links index, and rankings move up, then there is no need to change your set up.
The only reason why I use article forge and word ai is I have it all automated with zennoposter. It makes the articles from a txt file of keywords, then downloads them and adds keyword optimised titles. Plus I got in early with article forge so have the legacy account with unlimited articles. But I do have to use multiple wordai accounts to support this - so that's expensive.
Spinrewriter is another good one in terms of quality, but it doesn't provide much spun variations. I've not used softspinner or bestspinner, so can't comment on them.
Although best spinner I would have thought to be good as It's Johnathan Leger's software. I used to buy all his tools as he pretty much dominated article creation and spinning software back in the day.
I forget what the big discussion was about back then.... them indexing, or Google favoring them or something else, it was awhile ago I cant be sure . . .
google sites
godaddy sites
think mailchimp has sites now even
These can all make for good tier one and parasite properties, but there is some time involved setting these all up and linking together.
They can grow to become their own assets as well if treated with some care.
I here ya with seeing those results and these parasite pages just jammed up over major authority sites lately.
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Man you got all energy to wrote those from sativa buds ? I
Honestly you and few handful members contribute here. I don't get why you saying this is a active forum. Gsa is a great software company...and the one of best tools out there.
I was using xrummer years ago and now only using xevil with gsa. Considering to upgrade to latest 23 ai version
I got the new version of xrumer, just haven't had a chance to play with it yet. Everyday I mean to, but just end up getting something else done instead. The upgrade actually looks identical to the previous version, so no idea what's different lol.
I got the new version of xrumer, just haven't had a chance to play with it yet. Everyday I mean to, but just end up getting something else done instead. The upgrade actually looks identical to the previous version, so no idea what's different lol.
Same thing happen. How much did you pay for upgrade? I wonder why you still using money robot and how it goes. I own MR and never liked it but in gsa forum I see some users still using it . Any input
I got quite a few of the lifetime licenses. If you can get the links indexed, then yes, they can be good for rankings. Either as T1 or even as T2/3.
The metrics on the domains are pretty good aside from the high spam score, but that's just what the 3rd party tools like sem rush and seo moz say. Besides, authority site like Amazon uk has a 25% spam score and Amazon.com have a 28% spam score - I don't see them struggling with rankings in Google lol
To judge how good your spinner is, just preview the articles in GSA SER. If it reads well, then stick with what you have. If it reads like garbage, then you may have to revisit your set up. Chatgpt is good as a seed article. Also if you are seeing your links index, and rankings move up, then there is no need to change your set up.
The only reason why I use article forge and word ai is I have it all automated with zennoposter. It makes the articles from a txt file of keywords, then downloads them and adds keyword optimised titles. Plus I got in early with article forge so have the legacy account with unlimited articles. But I do have to use multiple wordai accounts to support this - so that's expensive.
Spinrewriter is another good one in terms of quality, but it doesn't provide much spun variations. I've not used softspinner or bestspinner, so can't comment on them.
Although best spinner I would have thought to be good as It's Johnathan Leger's software. I used to buy all his tools as he pretty much dominated article creation and spinning software back in the day.
Yes and the article builder (remember the plr junk ) and there was a keyword research software I don't remember the name...
Thanks for Input I am not a big fan of MR but I still use time to time..I am having success with gsa ser. But after the core update and seeing lot of medium and para sites posts on serps made me to re think of para site seos...all my older no way to rank para sites are now ranked. Some google properties I own now ask for sms verification and I dont have single of them ..good lesson. Lol
I hate money robot. It's a piece of crap software lol Most of features have been abandoned or don't work. Has fake updates every 24 hours. It's constantly crashing/freezing and just runs really slow. Am sure you've experienced the same.
But I've seen it move rankings up once links get indexed. So to have access to 1000 do follow domains is still something of worth, especially once paid for the lifetime. Plus there are lots of different strategies and ways you can use a site list of 1000 do follow domains.
The upgrade for Xrumer was about $60 or so - I got it as soon as he announced it, so got it at the cheapest price - then it went up in price every few days/weeks.
My main tools are GSA SER and Rankerx and combined is a pretty awesome combo for moving rankings up. I've recently added my own PBN set up with zennoposter, so it's like another link building set up. Currently it only does T1 links, but I've been thinking about programming it to do unlimited tiers with the PBNs instead - stacking the domain authority with 10 tiers or even 100 tiers lol Will have to experiment.
I got quite a few of the lifetime licenses. If you can get the links indexed, then yes, they can be good for rankings. Either as T1 or even as T2/3.
The metrics on the domains are pretty good aside from the high spam score, but that's just what the 3rd party tools like sem rush and seo moz say. Besides, authority site like Amazon uk has a 25% spam score and Amazon.com have a 28% spam score - I don't see them struggling with rankings in Google lol
To judge how good your spinner is, just preview the articles in GSA SER. If it reads well, then stick with what you have. If it reads like garbage, then you may have to revisit your set up. Chatgpt is good as a seed article. Also if you are seeing your links index, and rankings move up, then there is no need to change your set up.
The only reason why I use article forge and word ai is I have it all automated with zennoposter. It makes the articles from a txt file of keywords, then downloads them and adds keyword optimised titles. Plus I got in early with article forge so have the legacy account with unlimited articles. But I do have to use multiple wordai accounts to support this - so that's expensive.
Spinrewriter is another good one in terms of quality, but it doesn't provide much spun variations. I've not used softspinner or bestspinner, so can't comment on them.
Although best spinner I would have thought to be good as It's Johnathan Leger's software. I used to buy all his tools as he pretty much dominated article creation and spinning software back in the day.
Yes and the article builder (remember the plr junk ) and there was a keyword research software I don't remember the name...
Thanks for Input I am not a big fan of MR but I still use time to time..I am having success with gsa ser. But after the core update and seeing lot of medium and para sites posts on serps made me to re think of para site seos...all my older no way to rank para sites are now ranked. Some google properties I own now ask for sms verification and I dont have single of them ..good lesson. Lol
Keyword Canine!
Parasites are the way to go right now for quick/easy rankings. I used to dabble in parasite seo nearly a decade ago, but got tired of losing my content due to accounts being shut down. I used to use squidoo lenses and hub pages back in the day, but then they started cracking down on affiliate marketers and eventually I lost all my parasites.
I can see the same cycle of events happenning again with linkedin and reddit. Google will hold them accountable for content quality and if they don't maintain the standards they will get drops in rank eventually. Right now they are going to be attracting a lot of SEOs/affiliate marketers. This update has literally put a target on their back.
So lesson learnt - I don't touch them anymore. Any link building I do now is to my own properties that I own. My own sites are powerful enough to compete with the parasites anyway. All of my domains are minimum DA50 - DA75. When you have sites with that much authority, you don't need to use parasites.
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Not much has changed since then: GSA SER got better and still provides the best bang for your buck and the best support of all 3. Money Robot, well, not much has changed - still mainly using their domains, but still popular with some link builders, especially if you like toxic backlinks, but it has the most straightforward GUI of all the tools. RankerX still has the worst workflow. This product is based on the 2015 Senuke, and not much has changed, but they are providing regular updates on the platforms, .
Rankerx is one of my favorites for usability, you install it on a VPS or Dedicated and you can access its GUI as if it were a website. But, to create personalized lists it falls short.
GSASER is the best automation software from my point of view, since you can do anything by programming an engine, including registering on sites where they use javascript, the only problem is not being able to automate websites where interaction with the page is required.
Have a nice day too.
The owners of MR own every site that gets posted to. So understand that. There is no Tumblr or anything else, outside their own network.
I must look at ZennoPoster one day, when I have the time and money. Seems like a helpful tool
That's actually the cool thing about this forum. You CAN talk about other products and not get banned lol I actually got banned from the senuke forum because we kept talking about gsa ser lol That sort of controlling behaviour is just no good for a public forum. And where is senuke now? RIP
Don't forget that this forum is run by it's customers - that's us lol
SEO NEO looks good from the videos I've watched, but there is no way I'm paying their monthly fee to use it - no way lol If they brought out a lifetme license I may consider buying one of them. SEO AP just looks really slow at setting up campaigns as well as waiting for them to finish. I couldn't work with something that runs that slow.
I'm pretty heavily invested in GSA SER and rankerx and these 2 tools work great for me. No silly monthly fees either.
I did just buy another new tool which does google stacks: https://glinkzpro.com/ Not had a chance to test it out yet. The UI looks crap, but the link sources and concepts are excellent.
But on fiverr there a ton of suppliers: https://www.fiverr.com/gigs/google-stacking
Seems I've arrived a little late to this party. Most of those domains will be DA100 or close to it, so that should be some crazy link juice being created across tiers. Will have to point a stack at one of my new PBNs with DA0/DR0 and TF0 and see what it does to the stats.
I've used google sites once in my life, but that was for a client using it as a parasite, so I never logged in to it and played with it.
Google sheets, clients have used and sent me access to share info, but I've never used it myself to set anything up.
Google drive I've never used, dropbox now and again, but one drive is my go to app for storage.
Google docs never used, or google slides or presentation etc etc never used any of them lol
Personally I don't use that option. I use article forge and word ai together and put my spun articles in a folder.
But I am still using money robot as their root domains still shows on Google whats your aspect on this..btw I don't use their monthly I purchased life time years back so I still use. That being said can you more input on spinning thing..lately I only use for 3.5 with gsa cg and spin with softspinner.
For better results should j use word ai or article forge I am bit lost with this
Do you mean to say you generate articles with article forge and then spin with word ai ? Don't you believe on soft spinner ? I know it's junk than word ai for sure..I also own best spinner and never used ..I just want to cut down my expenses as I am spending lot of money on those. I have decent roi but I still have to cut lol
The metrics on the domains are pretty good aside from the high spam score, but that's just what the 3rd party tools like sem rush and seo moz say. Besides, authority site like Amazon uk has a 25% spam score and Amazon.com have a 28% spam score - I don't see them struggling with rankings in Google lol
To judge how good your spinner is, just preview the articles in GSA SER. If it reads well, then stick with what you have. If it reads like garbage, then you may have to revisit your set up. Chatgpt is good as a seed article. Also if you are seeing your links index, and rankings move up, then there is no need to change your set up.
The only reason why I use article forge and word ai is I have it all automated with zennoposter. It makes the articles from a txt file of keywords, then downloads them and adds keyword optimised titles. Plus I got in early with article forge so have the legacy account with unlimited articles. But I do have to use multiple wordai accounts to support this - so that's expensive.
Spinrewriter is another good one in terms of quality, but it doesn't provide much spun variations. I've not used softspinner or bestspinner, so can't comment on them.
Although best spinner I would have thought to be good as It's Johnathan Leger's software. I used to buy all his tools as he pretty much dominated article creation and spinning software back in the day.
Honestly you and few handful members contribute here. I don't get why you saying this is a active forum. Gsa is a great software company...and the one of best tools out there.
I was using xrummer years ago and now only using xevil with gsa. Considering to upgrade to latest 23 ai version
Thanks for Input I am not a big fan of MR but I still use time to time..I am having success with gsa ser. But after the core update and seeing lot of medium and para sites posts on serps made me to re think of para site seos...all my older no way to rank para sites are now ranked. Some google properties I own now ask for sms verification and I dont have single of them ..good lesson. Lol
But I've seen it move rankings up once links get indexed. So to have access to 1000 do follow domains is still something of worth, especially once paid for the lifetime. Plus there are lots of different strategies and ways you can use a site list of 1000 do follow domains.
The upgrade for Xrumer was about $60 or so - I got it as soon as he announced it, so got it at the cheapest price - then it went up in price every few days/weeks.
My main tools are GSA SER and Rankerx and combined is a pretty awesome combo for moving rankings up. I've recently added my own PBN set up with zennoposter, so it's like another link building set up. Currently it only does T1 links, but I've been thinking about programming it to do unlimited tiers with the PBNs instead - stacking the domain authority with 10 tiers or even 100 tiers lol Will have to experiment.
Parasites are the way to go right now for quick/easy rankings. I used to dabble in parasite seo nearly a decade ago, but got tired of losing my content due to accounts being shut down. I used to use squidoo lenses and hub pages back in the day, but then they started cracking down on affiliate marketers and eventually I lost all my parasites.
I can see the same cycle of events happenning again with linkedin and reddit. Google will hold them accountable for content quality and if they don't maintain the standards they will get drops in rank eventually. Right now they are going to be attracting a lot of SEOs/affiliate marketers. This update has literally put a target on their back.
So lesson learnt - I don't touch them anymore. Any link building I do now is to my own properties that I own. My own sites are powerful enough to compete with the parasites anyway. All of my domains are minimum DA50 - DA75. When you have sites with that much authority, you don't need to use parasites.