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Article Quality - Tier 1 vs Tier 2

michty6michty6 UK
in GSA Search Engine Ranker
I want to slow build some T1 links using GSA over time - focussing on articles, Web 2.0 and wikis. For the article side, I have manually written and spun content - it's the same article re-written 3 times then each version spun and the sentences inter-linked. However, I also plan on using articles for T2. Question is: do I need to manually spin something up for Tier 2 as well, or does using something like Kontent Machine still work for T2 nowadays?

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  • kijix84kijix84
    of course. kontent machine works for t1 even.
  • shaunshaun https://www.youtube.com/ShaunMarrs
    +1 for KM on T1.
  • vikingviking
    For me:
    PBN = Hand written
    T1 = KM + manual edits
    T2 = KM heavily spun
  • 1linklist1linklist FREE TRIAL Linklists - VPM of 150+ - http://1linklist.com
    Another big +1 for KM from me as well.

    and @Viking, that's exactly how we do it as well. The only exception being especially valuable properties in our PBN, which we ONLY link to with either other PBN sites or handwritten T1 Links.

    But if its not anything special domain wise, then it does not hurt a thing to use KM for T1.
  • shaunshaun https://www.youtube.com/ShaunMarrs
    edited July 2016
    @viking  
    @1linklist

    Quick question lads, on your PBN are you linking to your MS from the domain home page as it has existing links and then using SER and stuff on it too? Or are you guys making brand new fresh internal pages and then boosting those with SER and stuff?

    Pretty new to PBNs and in my head a PBN uses existing backlinks to the domain before it was repurposed for power. I am playing with an idea of making a network of brand new fresh domains with no previous owners and then making loads of internal pages for my sites and then boosting those with SER and SEREngines.

    Just curious as to how you guys are doing it.
  • kijix84kijix84
    pretty much zero chance i would use SER on a PBN i think. i just bought over 30 expired domains that i scraped and the point is to keep the sites trust/cf in good order.

    the trust of the actual URL has to be high in order to pass trust flow to the domain, meaning most links SER creates will do nothing but tank that value. i guess we dont know for sure if Google feels the same way about majestic metrics, but we do have a lot of statistical data that tells us the most powerful PBN links come from high TF domains. not to mention the bigger reason not to do it which would be SER links create a pretty big foot print which i would be trying to avoid.
  • shaunshaun https://www.youtube.com/ShaunMarrs
    @kijix84 yea what I had in mind are two totally different things. A PBN not being touched by anything else other than its existing link profile and essentially a network of private fresh domains that are brand new to act as stable T1's and blast them with Web 2.0s and SER.

    Also I have always used SER directly on my money sites, the only problem I see with using properly filtered SER direct to a money site is the contextuals can die or get removed. Owning a fresh blog network as your T1 prevents this.
  • redraysredrays Las Vegas
    @shaun - I've been thinking the same thing for a while, just need to get around to implementing it now. It could easily replace the diversity in linking root domains that SER currently provides. It may cause a footprint, but you could do it quite cheaply with all these new tlds.
  • shaunshaun https://www.youtube.com/ShaunMarrs
    @redrays yea I crunched some numbers and with the namecheap offer it was crazy cheap to set up one to test that has 100 domains. I plan to do a test with only 20 for now though due to the time it takes to test them up.

    I am looking at two ways to take it. The first option is to have niche specific networks built for a specific set of money sites. The other is to make them into magazine style sites that cover loads of niches and prop whole bunches of pages up with them.
  • redraysredrays Las Vegas
    @shaun - given the cost I would just go niche specific :)
  • shaunshaun https://www.youtube.com/ShaunMarrs
    I would use human spun for filler content and manually spun by me for linking articles. I have a package with solidseovps for their SEO hosting. I could automate posting but I want to do it by hand to maxamise it.
  • michty6michty6 UK
    Cheers for the answers guys, haven't actually bought KM as I had been spinning things myself but I don't think that is scalable without me losing my mind.  Will give it a whirl now.

    @shaun - if you would use GSA directly on your money site (with some strictish filters I imagine) why would you not just do the same on a PBN?  If this strategy would work with the MS, why would it not work with the PBN...?

    And my vote is for niche PBNs over generic but I can see the arguments for both.

    I also plan on using GSA for T1 - probably just articles though and mix in a bunch of manual stuff, PBNs (etc) too.  I think not having all your eggs in the same basket is obviously the best T1 strategy (and having a tonne of baskets - of which GSA is one).




  • shaunshaun https://www.youtube.com/ShaunMarrs
    They are two different strategies, you could mix them if you choose but for this im keeping them seperate. 
  • echanneyechanney usa
    General niche pbn's are great for existing sites.  Niche specific pbn's should be for customers
  • redraysredrays Las Vegas
    @echanney - what is the reasoning behind this statement?

    @shaun - did you end up moving away from SER? What kind of stuff are you doing now?
  • shaunshaun https://www.youtube.com/ShaunMarrs
    redrays Yea, trying PBNs, got a server scraping domains and I have canceled everything else. When its time to renew it I will down scale it massively as its specs are not needed anymore.

    I have a few SER based sites that I will keep tracking over the course of the next few month but my time and effort will be going into PBNs for the forseeable future but I wont be building any more links to these projects so they are just left to do what they will.

    Got one last test going with elite link indexer too as they inboxed me explaining some stuff about their process so I will track that test too.


  • michty6michty6 UK
    @shaun I love your test and move around philosophy, you should start a blog or something with your results :)
  • shaunshaun https://www.youtube.com/ShaunMarrs
    michty6 It's on my agenda, just a long while off yet. I have been saving little ideas for blog posts and stuff that I think would be helpful, been doing it for around 3 years now. I checked the word count of the evernote I have it in and its upto just over 300,000 words of post ideas now lol.

    Just think how many words that will be when it is made into full content posts :P.
  • JudderManJudderMan UK
    @mitchy6 I'm in the same boat, I can't see a problem with SER'ing some PBNs. My domains are low TF but simply from not being sites for a while and being sat dormant, but they have good link profiles. Supercharge their backlinks and some to the PBN and it should be golden.

    But, 'some' is the operative word. Never blanket a strategy. Always leave some leeway for error and fuckups.
  • michty6michty6 UK
    @shaun - I am sure you have already but make sure a lot of your posts in here are in there too... 

    @judderman - Yes I agree I think everything you said I think it could also be applied to T1, hence why I believe T1 GSA = PBN GSA.  And obviously download the existing backlinks to the PBN and give them some tiered juice too (still quality ones though) - this is then essentially a T3 layer in disguise :)
  • shaunshaun https://www.youtube.com/ShaunMarrs
    michty6 The stuff I have planned for the blog is a lot more detailed than the stuff I post on here but I will probably make a round up or something :).
  • michty6michty6 UK
    @shaun Awesome - can't wait to read your post on 'Why GSA Should Absolutely Not Be Used For Tier 1' :D
  • redraysredrays Las Vegas
    This thread really turned good again in a hurry :)
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