Why is PR filters still a option

royalmice

@Sven

Since the last Google Page Rank update took place in December 2013, and it has allready been indicated that Google will no longer use PR to measure sites, why is this option still available in GSA SER.

I think allot of people are not aware that PR is a thing of the past and by using the PR filters in GSA SER they are loosing out on 1000's of potential links since no site created after Dec. 2013 has a PR value

Here are some sources confirming this:
http://searchengineland.com/google-toolbar-pagerank-finally-officially-dead-205277
http://mysiteauditor.com/blog/is-google-pagerank-dead/
http://searchenginewatch.com/sew/how-to/2376451/pagerank-dead-what-will-replace-the-green-standard
https://www.seroundtable.com/google-pagerank-dead-again-19482.html
https://www.seroundtable.com/google-toolbar-pagerank-dead-19256.html
http://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-will-probably-updating-toolbar-pagerank-john-mueller-confirms/117691/
https://blog.ahrefs.com/google-toolbar-pagerank-dead-long-live-google-toolbar-pagerank/

and many 1000's more over here: https://www.google.com/search?q=google+pagerank&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=google+pagerank&tbs=qdr:y


Maybe it is time for GSA SER to remove all those useless PR filters ?

Sven

I will remove it when google puts down it's api to check PR.

gsa8mycows

Nobody is obliged to use PR filters, meaning it's safe to ignore it altogether.

royalmice

@Sven
Thanks that will be great, just a pity Google is so evasive on the topic


Indeed it is safe to ignore them problem most people are not aware that PR is no longer maintained, and all the old tutorials they find still suggest using PR, so people are unknowingly burning up bandwidth and checking pr that is not updated for almost 2 years. So many people will actually loose out on some good links because they dont have a PR but are authority sites.

royalmice

@Sven

I noticed the latest GSA SER Update:

"10.79 - fix: PR filter options shortly disabled as google no longer supports it"

LOL  - Glad that you finally listened to my advise from 2 years ago when i asked for PR filter to be removed.
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I am just wondering what we will now do with services like PR Jacker that was depending on the "toolbarqueries.google.com"  call to jijack and give a virtual PR

Would be great if you could continue to support pr jacker service or somehow integrate a similar function in GSA SER

manuboss

same question here, how use pr jacker now ?

bubolini

It'd be still good to at least have some orientation as to what kind of links we're scraping / acquiring etc. Perhaps a DA filter?

Sven

well I had to remove this as people would not get any link build who use this option and didnt notice that the service was recently shut down.
You get waned that this option is currently without any effect. Again, Im thinking how to filter this in future but right now there is no option here sorry.

darnoldi

Why not have PR checking disabled by default, but a setting for those of us with PR Jacker to enable it if we want?

Sven

it's weekend. I had to make a quick decission and did this. Forcing everyone to use PRJack which is not working either right now is no option for me.

puntoGT

Hello Sven great to here that, i had restore to version 10,78 today! At first I was a little shocked, this is great to cancel not the option for PR checker to work, you filter is needed for that tool.

royalmice

@sven PR jacjer is  working just fine on this end. Would have been nice to give us a little notice that the pr feature  which pr jacker users depend on will be removed instead of just making a quick decision. It would have been nice if there was an alternative in place before shutting down the only available options.

Sven

Well I had to make a decision. This was one I made please accept it. It's not final but the best you can think of.
Imagine you have no PR-Jacker software as most of our customers, and use that option. You will wonder why no link was build and all return with PR-0. I had to remove this with a warning till I come around with another solution.

theguruland

@royalmice rollback to another gsa version and everything will work fine. I would like to spend 2 cents on this topic. Its true now PR is not being updated anymore , I think prjacker is using pr just to regulate its metrics and not because its relavant ( or at least I understand this way) PR jacker is still working on my end too but for how long? They are not providing support anymore.. Personaly I bought this proxy checker thing but it does not work with metrics, unfortunately... Prjacker scan metrics much better and much faster and my suggestion would be to integrate something like into gsa.. but seriously these days who can tell you for sure that trust flow or DA metrics are so much worth? I guess it could be better to have a tool that check the link quality based on other filters like outgoing links etc..I m sure @sven will find a good compromise for all of us.

royalmice

@sven @theguruland

It is not a problem, was just surprised to finally see  PR Filters go,  I basically stopped using the PR filters in June 2015 when i opened this thread and none of the data packs we sell have any PR filter enabled, but i am  still are using the PR filter via PR Jacker for GSA SEO indexer and that still seems to work

Actually now that the PR filters are removed people will see more positive results as they been loosing out since Dec 2013 with the pr filters which never worked

Those of you are still using PR jacker, i find that the following custom PR Jacker script was getting me much better results as compared to the ones it come with :

return Average(TF,CF)/10;


Immediate solution to ensure you have quality links.
This is what i will start doing to ensure the links are good quality.

• Dont use search engines in gsa ser
• Take your existing identified and verified list and run them thru GSA Platform identifier,
• In GSA Platform identifier enable the following filters MOZ DA and PA filters
  
• Save as your new Identified list and start submitting to the list with filtered da \PA
  

The result is all your lnks will be higher than whatever u have set in GSA PI

afkratien

@royalmice i have a question .

return Average(TF,CF)/10;

and what should i set up pr = on gsa? 
1 or 2 or 3

Thank you .

sorry , my english is not good ,

royalmice

@afkratien whatever level o authority links you want. Just think of it as virtual Google PR
i would say to be conservative use 1 - 3

afkratien

thank for your reply

if i set 1 , that means (TF or CF) >= 10 .

isnt  it ?

thank

royalmice

if you set 1 then it is 1 !!!

theguruland

@royalmice Platform identifier have MOZ filters???? I dont see that... its built in?

royalmice

@theguruland

theguruland

@royalmice it still work ? Someone stated that MOZ api is down now ?

darnoldi

Thanks for putting this back in Sven. Appreciate it

royalmice

Thanks @sven

yenerich

I think that GSA SER must have some solution. Its not a good idea to have to purchase Proxy Scraper, because is another $100. 

IMHO GSA SER must offer some option to avoid low quality links. 

Maybe include this quality check in a cheap additional software (not something that cost an additional $100), like PRJacker but from GSA. The best option is to add it directly into GSA SER since PR was part of the software, its a must to run the software.

snoweye

@sven Please, can you add Moz PA and DA to GSA Ser.

Sven

yenerich you are right, I will add some google PR replacement but I still need a solution that works for everyone. I don't want to make a quick thing here that is replaced the next day with another option. Also Proxy Scraper is way more than just a proxy scanner, it has many other nice featured. But yes, I get what you mean.

@snoweye I guess I can but only with a payed solution as the MOZ guys are not happy that there API is used for free.

yenerich

@Sven Its good news to read you comment about your idea to add something to GSA SER.

In the other hand, i know that Proxy Scraper is a great tool, but i dont need 5 copies, and i have 5 VPS running GSA SER!!