^ Because it isn't possible using the current tools on the market and you just end up repeating yourself. Plus there are apparently real people in real life who think an advertising company with a turnover of $66bn and loads of their staff went to MIT or whatever don't spend any of that cash on preventing clickfraud.
@Sven has definitely seen the thread but i haven't noticed any reply from him yet.. I wonder if he thinks such tool would be reasonable in the GSA product list in the coming future.....
Actually yes I read it, but the way such software should work is not that easy as it sounds like. The program must use javascript or at least control a browser to do it, else G. would notice things.
And it has to simulate not just one browser but all major once to not leave a footprint.
That is the biggest problem here. Everything else would be seen by G. and the tool would be useless.
Anyway I have it on my list but it's not as easy as you all might think it would be.
@spunko2010 ,anything is possible,all @sven needs to do is try and test,am sure nobody knew and expected gsa ser will explode as much as it did and still thousands are using it and u heard no complaints from the big G..the software will simply be generating traffic,nothing to do with manipulating Google, and also,the software should be kept private to gsa ser users only,am pretty sure 90% of current ser users will try it out, so,that wont be a problem, all we need is @sven to give it a shot
Guys, just realize that if any of these CTR manipulation services really don't leave a footprint to Google, they can be used to click fraud Adsense and similare advertisment platforms as well. That or Google doesn't use these fraud detection techniques in organic search. Way too much wishful thinking going on in here IMO.
In my case study with genuine CTR improvement techniques it took about 1 month to rank all major keywords top 3. Site was brand new as well.
@rogerke, the software wont be used to click any ads on a website,and its NOT going to be for clicking adsense ads,just to be clear with that.and in regards to your case study,what level was the competition? was that the only technique u used or u also did link building,social signals,etc. @magically,id like to test out your bot as well if u dont mind
I know, but my point is that Google already has these click fraud detection techniques in place in PPC, so it makes sense they use it in organic search as well. Google isn't stupid. Check out this tidbit from a recently awarded patent regarding site/name queries as a quality signal (*)
"Different users can be identified based upon users being logged into a user accounts, different Internet protocol addresses associated with the user device being used by user, or by using information provided by the user device, such as an Internet cookie."
Also did a case study in an untargeted niche. The domain currently only two backlinks but is very optimized (AWESOME domain name, title and meta description). The average CTR has been a whopping 25% while the average ranking has been 8th since I created it last month. And guess what? Since this week it's ranking #1-2 on all important keywords! And even more importantly, a pretty competitive adult keyword also started to rank top 5 despite it being untargeted (although related I only mentioned it once on the domain) And again, the domain holds no link juice at all!
@magically your graph is misleading without knowing if you were doing any other marketing, and what timescale it is. If the timescale isn't < 3 days then I'd wager it isn't working. If you check the Moz link I posted earlier, you can see results in hours, not days/weeks.
And even if you were not doing any other marketing there are so many other factors at play. For example your CTR might be quite high anyway and be completely natural because of a good KW rich, targeted and relevant META description.
@Sven how many users are running your software at any time? I honestly think the best way , in fact the only way to do this, is to build software/extension so it runs within the browser of users. That will naturally take advantage of the 1000s of variables (OS version, resolution, browser, country, IP, whether logged in/out of Gmail), but it needs a massive userbase otherwise it won't work. I would wager at least a few thousand users. This is the route I am going down, the hard part is getting people to download/use it.
If @sven release this kind of tool ctr booster something ill buy it asap. Lol no other developers i know who developed complex and constant update as @sven do
There's a whole page of reasons here why this won't work. Just hire your own freelancer/contractor to do it if you think it'll work, there's loads of C# programmers on elance.
I would also have the tool click on random pages of google. For example:
a site on page 1 stay 5 second then go to page 3 then to whatever page yo are at.
I remember one tool back around 2010 i think it is sniper. basically it would search for your site name keyword. Then once you hit position 100 or so, it would search keyword then hit your site. The guy was a scammer
as the above poster said there is lot of reasons why this may not work.
Not many people will go the 100th or so listing unless it was important.
I would also take off any cpc ads like adsense, in case the tool by accident clicks it.
also needs
random times
move the mouse cursor up and down left to right on chrome to stimulate what actual users do.
different proxy speed, or site load time. some people have 100mbs others have 3mbs
click different pages
go to your site, spend time, then go back to google and type another keyword that is what an average user does. They dont just go to one site then close it down. They search then then go to youtube, go play games or or do what i do, which is i cant say, starts with a p
mobile
Also you will need a vps, or unless leave your home on 24/7, because people just dont search from noon to 2 pm. They search from noon to noon - all day
also I would add the browser needs to reflect the actual %.
Lets see the top browsers are microsoft edge explorer
chrome
firefox
apple
They should get the majority of the visits, not some browser that .00005 of the population uses but that browser is still important because it shows diversity
Mikey, it needs to go a whole lot further. Different IPs that match the target country, different resolutions, different versions of each browser, different computer types and O/S, different versions of that O/S, and then you need probably to find a way to login to Gmail accounts to do it all. And then not get flagged by their security.
There are tools that do all of the above (that you listed) already but they don't work. A lot of them don't even process javascript, they are worse than useless.
I think it's safe to say this isn't possible without some mass concerted effort. Or if you pay real people to click your links in Google, but then that won't be cost-effective compared to just building links.
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I watched the video for this one: http://www.googlesearchbot.org/offer/ and it looks pretty interesting, as well as being affordable.
Has anybody tried it?
3:-O
Actually yes I read it, but the way such software should work is not that easy as it sounds like. The program must use javascript or at least control a browser to do it, else G. would notice things.
And it has to simulate not just one browser but all major once to not leave a footprint.
That is the biggest problem here. Everything else would be seen by G. and the tool would be useless.
Anyway I have it on my list but it's not as easy as you all might think it would be.
@magically,id like to test out your bot as well if u dont mind
@magically your graph is misleading without knowing if you were doing any other marketing, and what timescale it is. If the timescale isn't < 3 days then I'd wager it isn't working. If you check the Moz link I posted earlier, you can see results in hours, not days/weeks.
And even if you were not doing any other marketing there are so many other factors at play. For example your CTR might be quite high anyway and be completely natural because of a good KW rich, targeted and relevant META description.
@Sven how many users are running your software at any time? I honestly think the best way , in fact the only way to do this, is to build software/extension so it runs within the browser of users. That will naturally take advantage of the 1000s of variables (OS version, resolution, browser, country, IP, whether logged in/out of Gmail), but it needs a massive userbase otherwise it won't work. I would wager at least a few thousand users. This is the route I am going down, the hard part is getting people to download/use it.
@sven,we know its not easy to build up something like that,but we know you can do it,please when can we look forward to the software?
There are tools that do all of the above (that you listed) already but they don't work. A lot of them don't even process javascript, they are worse than useless.
I think it's safe to say this isn't possible without some mass concerted effort. Or if you pay real people to click your links in Google, but then that won't be cost-effective compared to just building links.