Not Seeing Results With GSA SER

sammicurr

Hey was wondering if anyone could help me out. I haven't been seeing results with GSA SER that I've been using on a site for about a month now.

My setup: GSA SER + Captcha Breaker with 10 dedicated proxies and a windows VPS w/ download speed of around 40mbps and upload upwards of 100mbps.

My web niche is not that competitive and neither are the keywords (usually under 8000 monthly searches). I spin the articles and generally keep everything exactly as is except for the descriptions and titles (manually spun).

In total, I've only created around 400 verified links even though the program has been running 24/7 for a month at around 190 threads. Is this normal considering the restrictions I've used (see below)? Will the SEO Indexer show results quicker or is that just another wasted purchase?

I run GSA SER 24/7 and have been using the following method from a user who claims to have had great success:
Tier 1 :
Filter
Checked - PR 3+(on domain level)
Checked - avoid posting to same url twice
Checked - skip sites with more than 100 OBL
Checked - skip unknown PR
Checked - put url to places where it can clearely seen as SPAM (you will want this option checked in order to get long articles posted on mediawiki websites)
I also use 86 adult/casino keywords to skip sites with the following word in domain/url.(see resources)

Platforms - Article (all platforms, even mediawiki checked even though they are nofollow they bring alot of seo juice as i have around 5000 mediawikis), Forum, Microblog, Social Bookmark, Social Network, Web 2.0.
This are my tier 1 links, i mostly get incontent d0follow links from this platforms with the following success (bare in mind this are PR3+ different domains):

Tier 2 :
Filter
Checked - PR1+(on domain level)
Checked - avoid posting to same url twice
Checked - skip unknown PR
Checked - put url to places where it can clearely seen as SPAM
I also use 86 adult/casino keywords to skip sites with the following word in domain/url.
After tier 1 is done posting i want to strenghten them with PR1+ sites.
I use all forums platforms because they bring alot strong backlinks that will stick in time, mostly are d0follow and i want more diversity even though they are not incontent.

Platforms - Article, Blog comments, Directory, Document Sharing, Forum, Guestbook, Image comment, Microblog, Social Bookmark, Social Network, Trackback, Web 2.0

yougotmymoney

How many of your Tier 1 links are indexed?

sammicurr

Not sure. What's the best way to check?

Startrip

Scrapebox or the inbuilt index-checker of GSA (show verified URLs and then "index check". you can also use ahrefs.com for a rough estimation.

>>> put url to places where it can clearely seen as SPAM (you will want this option checked in order to get long articles posted on mediawiki websites)

this is not true anymore, there is a new option field in the project where you can define what kind of BL you want to create. update your copy of SER

sammicurr

>>> put url to places where it can clearely seen as SPAM (you will want this option checked in order to get long articles posted on mediawiki websites)

this is not true anymore, there is a new option field in the project where you can define what kind of BL you want to create. update your copy of SER

Ya I've updated. I'm not sure I really understand the new options...
Thanks for the info on the indexer I'll check it out

davbel

@sammicurr turn off your PR and OBL filtering.  Post to all PR, it's more natural.

sammicurr

Screw it. I'm just going to grab a copy of the SEO Indexer.Barely 10% of the links were indexed so far.

What's everyone's thoughs on PR. Should I gradually lower the PR and OBL requirements, keep it as is, or just lower it to PR 1+?

sammicurr

Oh ya and thanks to everyone for the responses. Your insight and help is greatly appreciated.

Glennf

I'm using Rons multi-tiered diagram shooting 20 links a day on all tiers and not seeing any results either. Is this is a better approach?

Do you feed the URLs from Tier1 into Tier2?

Startrip

Sorry to say that, but I'm not into "real" tiers any more. 

Build a strong t1 and do everything to get the links indexed (that's what im building an index tier for).

It's not that i say tiers dont work (they prolly do), but i see my pure spamprojects outrank my tier-projects all the time. Maybe after a few months it will turn around completely, but for fast results spam seems to be still king.

Noone knows what animals google will throw at us in the future, and i stick to the stuff that works now and that works fast.

So what i do with my new project is : 

- T1 with all good performing platforms except blog comment/referrer/pingback and all that stuff that begs for being sandboxed. Also no filters (not even wordfilter or blacklist thing), set to 500 sub/day (which results in ~100 verified links/day).

Then there is a T2 that has the sole purpose to get the T1 stuff indexed. I check everything and use the massive global sites list. 

I'm not finding any new targets so i just use the list i have gathered yet. I let that thing run without a limit and reset it daily by deleting the History (so it builds new links everyday, i don't give a fart if there are doublesubmissions or anything since this is just for indexing).

I send everything (T1 and T2) to lindexed and let the T1 stuff run through GSA indexer.

Maybe thats worth a try for you glenn since youre asking for results over and over again and you seem not to make a step forward. In my opinion, everybody is way to careful. Even fresh sites can handle a lot more links than you might think.

I'll let you know if this works or not, but when i look at the competition i dont think they do something different...

Best Regards

rodol

hey Startrip  do you know the difference in % of indexed sites, after you use GSA indexer, or after you send your links to lindexed. 

i want to know what strategy help increase more your index level... building more links, lindexed or gsa indexer.

Startrip

hey,

in the beginning i was working very accurate with everything and i checked which were indexed and which were not, now i just throw them all to lindexed and GSA indexer and build backlinks to them. can't do more so i dont calculate.

davbel

I do both, but still maintain that tiered is the only way to go for long term.  Throwing 1000s of links at a site might work for now, but Google will catch on soon enough - I think @insane said most of his spam projects have tanked in the last few days.

traged

@Startip - your method seems to be a good mixture between slow tiers and hardcore spam, 500 subs/day sounds good.

I have a few questions - how big are your sites and how long are they ranking? And what other platforms do u thing "begs for being sandboxed"? Guestbook, image comments, trackback, forum profiles?

thanks

Startrip

@traged at the beginning i was a wussy and went for 3.000 exact, the next one was 18.000 exact and it hit the top 3 weeks ago. it jumps between 2 and 5 constantly (never 3 or 4), for some reason.

Cant tell you how long this will last, but if you dont have your own product, churn and burn seems to be a good idea. 

It takes less than an hour to setup a full campaign in SER, for the page you take 5 articles à 10 bucks each and put some free theme on your wordpress, that you install with 1-click on your hosting. 

Put adsense on it or amazon. 

So basically 1 Moneysite is created in 1 day (initially). When it hits page 1, its smart to add content if you feel like it and maybe put a nice banner on top (there are some guys making great logos for a fiverr...).

So I think it's not smart to be too careful. We are not dealing with big investments here.

If you burn some pages, have a beer and move on. Took me months to develop this attitude, but SEO is not rocketscience and neither its something where you have tobe extremely careful or accurate (because google isnt accurate too, it cant read and they dont even find all of your links).

Btw, the fun ends where you start to rank others peoples pages. I'm doing it for my best friend and for a few relatives, I'm acting completely different in these cases of course. 

I wouldn't feel like a good person if the page crashes at some point (and sooner or later one of their customers who "read something about SEO" will check their backlinks and see that its all complete and utter bull from chinese article directories with unrelated youtube videos).

Velocity

@startrip

When you use this method, what percentage of links are you sending to where?

(home page vs money pages vs inner pages etc)

I am also experimenting a little bit with some small sites to see what happens when I am a little bit more aggressive!

cloudattack

I'm getting results fine, I don't recommend hardcore spam unless you have lots of sites and want fast money. 

Startrip

@velocity it doesn't make sense to test on small pages, since they react different than big ones. While you crush a 1000 word page with spam, a 10.000+ one could react fine. I see way better results when I have a lot of content on the pages. I'm using 8 variations of my landing page/main page and 2 per inner page and build links to these. So 50% approx. Go to the main one.
Best Regards

sweeppicker

If your links aren't indexed you won't get results. Simple as that. Multi tiers can take 6 - 8 weeks to push rank. Just stick with it and don't be shy. You should be building thousands and thousands of indexed multi-tier links.